Bravo for her!!! Happy for you as well!
Posts by carla
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Whats that term??
by pbrow inso i am driving with my oldest the other day and she says..... i was reading the watchtower at the meeting and thought.... "the watchtower and awake are just like... what is that stuff that countries put out when they are at war?...
propaganda... yeah, they only give you one side of something and you have to listen to them because they are chosen".
i praised allah right then and there!!!
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Looking for experiences from those who are married with kids and have dissacociated
by UnshackleTheChains inthis is a question for those who officially left the organisation and are married; and your spouse and kids are still in.'.
i just wanted to find out what your experience has been when you dissacociated.the following questions go through my mind all the time.
it always comes back to the what if's!.
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carla
If you are deemed a 'a spiritual danger' to your spouse they may recommend a separation which most likely would lead to a divorce anyway. I think in most cases elders won't flat out say 'get a divorce' but they imply it would be best and let the jw think it was their own idea or rather that of the evil ubm who doesn't love jah.
Do whatever you can to protect children from this cult. Let them play sports, music, art, etc.... let them be normal so they can avoid lifelong mental, emotional and spiritual traumas. AND so that one day they won't shun you.
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JW harassment
by blasphemous.mouse inis there a way to have a jw who will not leave someone alone spammed with anti-cult information and anti-jw information?
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carla
Sparrowdown has a good point and I have tried it with my jw. Naturally they won't read anything you have to offer and perhaps they will leave you alone finally. Or do below-
Can you send the cease and desist letter? this is from a post of mine 9 yrs ago, you will have to update the address of the wt. The letter works and will eventually make its way to the elders.
(original post here -https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/153587/cease-desist-letter)
I have given this out many times but darn if I didn't save it somewhere so I have to keep retyping it, so here it is. I have sent the letter to the local kh & NY and told my jw to keep them away and still they persist. The wt considers the letter good for only one year. Many kh's do not have mailboxes so if you attempt to sent locally it will be returned to you.
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Name
Address
Watchtower Bible and Tract Society
25 Columbia Heights
Brooklyn, Ny 11201-2483
NOTICE TO 'CEASE AND DESIST' ALL VISITS
Dear Sirs,
Please notify all members of your congregation that consent, implied or otherwise, to visit my property at the address stated above for any purpose relating
to the work of Jehovah's Witnesses or the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society has been revoked.
I will consider any future visits to be an act of willful trespass and may prosecute to the full extent of the law, civil or criminal.
You must not visit on the pretense of 'updating records'. Check the electoral roll for up to date ownership information.
Notice has also been served to my local congregation located in the area of ________________________________________________________.
I shall hold you both severally and jointly liable for any infraction of this notice to 'cease and desist'.
You have been warned!
Respectfully,
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To kill or not to kill
by Chook inhow many jws would kill a violent rapist in there home or protect their family with lethal means .
the one thing i love about the usa is the right to defend oneself with lethal force in their own home.
it's not that i want to kill someone but better them dead than my children..
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carla
It depends on what the latest wt rag has said about it or the milieu of the current cong.
I know this because over the years I have asked my jw that very question, would he, if needed protect me & our kids? if that was the only option? Sometimes the answer was, "well I would have to think about it" ( never mind that if someone is in the act of strangling/raping your wife or children there is not a whole lot of time to mull it over) other times it was, "yes, you are allowed to protect your family even if it involves deadly force". So there you have it, depends on what the wt has to say about at the moment. That was my experience anyway.
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Has anyone on here referred to themselves as an apostate to fellow witnesses
by Chook ini have it bodes well for a snap photo..
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carla
My jw thinks that people really would like to believe but they just can't live the lifestyle because they prefer to be 'sinners'. sigh. Ask a jw if they are sinners and they hem & haw and say things like they are not 'intentional sinners" like the rest of slobs. hmmm, I am rather negative today, yep, it is a meeting night.
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Uh!oh! Serena - where to now?
by fulltimestudent inappearing among other things that waste my time on the web today, was this vanity fair cover featuring a naked pregnant serena.
surely evidence that she no longer sees herself as even a jw associate, what's more likely does not give a stuff what her fomer loving brothers and sisters may think.. .
more info on the vf web-site: http://www.vanityfair.com/style/2017/06/serena-williams-cover-story.
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carla
All I can tell you is that I once, long ago, posted a pic to my jw about her and her, umm, well, lets just say her well endowed attributes, and my jw was appalled and accused me of sending him porn. It was a pic posted from a national news source, not porn, not photo shopped. At any rate he did not appreciate it!! to say the least. I imagine he would say she is not a 'real' jw anyway by the pic you posted. That is the stock answer I get when anything negative is viewed by a current jw.
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The most dangerous congregations are the isolated ones that only have 1 or 2 elders
by Chook inthe elders only have to fake it for cos visit, then the poor sheep get shorn for anther 6 months and just when publisher billy thinks the co will save their souls from these tyrants elders a new co comes onto the seen, and of course he is trained only to listen to the elders.
so the vicious cycle of religious rape continues until billy and his mates burnout..
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carla
Aren't they all generally small congs? less than 140 or so? I have no clue, but that was my understanding. Naturally me & my jw have completely different view of just why the congs must be so small. Me, cults, him, so we can "know" the individuals in each cong etc.... me, quacks like a duck.............stopped beating my head against that wall long ago....
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Deborah Layton - Jonestown Survivor
by Tallon insaw this on the exjw reddit forum - very thought provoking.. "when your own thoughts are forbidden, when your questions are not allowed and our doubts are punished, when contacts with friendships outside of the organisation are censored, we are being abused, for the ends never justify the means.. when our heart aches knowing we have made friendships and secret attachments that will be forever forbidden if we leave, we are in danger.. when we consider staying in a group because we cannot bear the loss, disappointment and sorrow our leaving will cause for ourselves and those we have come to love, we are in a cult .... when family and friends are used as a weapon in order to force us to stay in an organisation, something has gone terribly wrong".. deborah layton.
seductive poison: a jonestown survivor's story of life and death in the people's temple.. .
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carla
Excellent quote!
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The great tribulation is now coming VERY soon!
by The Searcher inwatchtower october 2017, par 11, page 28 - "very soon the political powers of satan’s world will form a coalition that is bent on the destruction of god’s people.
's] have anything to fear?
not at all!........at that critical moment during the great tribulation, the angelic soldiers of jehovah of armies will come together to protect god’s people..."[j.w.'s].
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carla
Is the Oct 2017 issue the worst in awhile?
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WT - Study Ed, October 2017 - The Truth Brings, “Not Peace, But a Sword”
by Sanchy inanother article analyzing how bad poor jw's have it when it comes to opposition from family.
few interesting quotes:.
parr 2:.
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carla
jw's should be honest at the doors and show the householder this issue of their rag.