a special message to her daughter, ann marie if you are watching this site.
your mother is eighty-eight now and her memory is going fast.
please call her, ann marie.
How heartbreaking! My thoughts and prayers are with you Grace.
Stories like this just help me reinforce the unloving nature of jw's when I have the chance to inform people why I dislike the jw's so much. Thanks to people like Mouthy's daughter giving such a 'good' witness to the borg.
awhile back and friend and i were discussing all the new things going on in dubland.
my friend does not post on the board much but we keep in touch on a regular basis for quite a long time now.
anyway, he has in the title of the pm oclam, i am thinking "oh good, another letter from my friend about language differences!
Awhile back and friend and I were discussing all the new things going on in dubland. My friend does not post on the board much but we keep in touch on a regular basis for quite a long time now.
Anyway, he has in the title of the pm OCLAM, I am thinking "oh good, another letter from my friend about language differences!" he can be a pretty funny guy in his letters and often comments or tells me about words down under that have different meaning than here in the US. But no, it was just about the new meetings. I wrote him back and told him I thought it was going to be about some sort of new expletive I didn't know about or something. Like when you hammer your thumb and yell "O CLAM!"
So it tickles my funny bone now to hear about the CLAM meetings and can only think of OCLAM when I see it. How about you? should the acronym be CLAM or OCLAM? isn't it actually 'Our Christian Life and Ministry'.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oo0fxyk4iba.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qxdgtaskfm.
i find these shocking.
Aren't they supposed to pay the original artists or labels to use their songs in that way? (thinking of the Elvis & Sister Sledge one in particular)
we nev could talk about politics.
period.
now we have the freedom of speech!
our families have cut off contact with us for the last several months.
they found out that we were celebrating holidays with our non-witness family.
our families were our last tie to the organization, as our former friends stopped associating with us about 3 years ago.
Fantastic letter! As a ubm (our families don't even know any jw's other than mine who joined up later in life) I really loved the paragraph starting with, "Please remember too that you once left the religion of your families and caused them much heartache and grief. Imagine,.......", so true! My jw has missed so many family memories and sadly he will not be in any pictures either.
I hope they read the entire letter! wishing you & yours all the best
hello people.. i'm tired and a bit sick at the moment but i can't let anyone think that this is going to go away.... i am able to tell you a few things in order to prevent any confusion in the minds of those who are thinking that nothing will come of this arc;that nothing will effect the wtbts in america and other places.. i have been there and given my testimony.
helen milroy and her assistants were there along with another group of people who are there to lend assistance if you crack up at any time during or after the hearing.
i did not crack up but can see how this happens.. security is tight and anonymity is sacred to them as they want to protect all who come forward.
i decided to write the following letter to my wife after years of frustration.
it was the only way i could express my feelings to her.
so far i have had a mixed reaction from her which i can later tell you about.
cha ching said, " I have seen the propagandized lines of the WT take people's brains over right before my eyes."- I have seen that too and it can be quite scary when you first see it!
I wish you well with the letter. I hope she reads it but worry that her jw-ism will kick in and she won't get past many parts. Is there one thing you could start with? is she willing to have an actual discussion vs the usual jw cut and paste/parrot the wt style? I know how hellish those jw 'discussions' can be and perhaps letters are the way to go. If she can manage to stay on topic.
the exclamation mark in the title above is because i was surprised, as i know that i am a "do not call", but this was what i presume were now two elders,(i have not been told their present status), so they reckon they are equipped to handle me, lol.
it was a friendly chat, as i knew the guys for decades.. during the course of our chat i was able to lead them towards jwfacts.com, i did this by a circuitous route which i will not bore you with, but right at the end i said that bro russell had said no matter what the source of truth was, it was still truth.. i am hoping they do not fear going to the site, i also pointed out that paul grundy says if anything is wrong on his site, e-mail him and he will correct it.. i did get a couple of digs in, said the gb were now like rock stars, one guy said "i don't think they would like you calling them that", so i said " o.k, tv evangelists then".
he had no reply to that barb !.
ignoring the juvenile ......
If you would rather they didn't show up even after being a do not call I suggest you write NY and ask them if they would please honor the do not call! Yeah I know, it will get them in trouble but..... it might show jw's like our new friend Mark that it is indeed a cult when these two are marked for disobeying orders. There will be repercussions from knocking on a do not call door, I know this from personal experience.
If they are diehard jw's they must be willing to walk the line, that includes taking the punishment. After all, it is only done out of love right? when the cong has to treat them like shit for a reason they will never know, they can feel the love of the society in which they live.
on their chanel they are showing a video of a special assembly day in belgium i believe.
the jws are dancing dressed in black and red, satanic colores.
singing and playing worldly songs and kingdom melodies.
on their chanel they are showing a video of a special assembly day in belgium i believe.
the jws are dancing dressed in black and red, satanic colores.
singing and playing worldly songs and kingdom melodies.
I can hardly believe this!!!!!!!
I have been to churches where modern type music was played (guitars,drums,etc..) but never, ever did they mix Elvis & Sister Sledge with Christian rock or hymnal type music. What on earth is going on here?
Dancing? the guy gyrating his hips on stage? all that clapping and bowing at the end?! Isn't that giving to much honor to those mere humans?
I don't get it, it seems so anti jw I am dumbfounded.
I would bet my last dollar that if I showed this to my jw he would say it was some made up thing by apostates to make the borg look bad.
