Posts by carla

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Does the Average R&F JW understand what grace is in Christianity ?

by smiddy in

i`m showing my ignorance here , not being an active member of any church before joining jw`s as a 19 yr old ,whenever i was ever confronted with the question of "grace" i was always at a loss to give an effective answer from a jw point of view.. was it just me ?

or did anybody else have a similar experience ?.

(ps , i dont think i ever heard the expression " grace" in a religious sense in all my 33 years in the borg.studying the wt.).

carla

Onthewayout, I will have to remember that perfect definition of the jw's view! It still makes no sense but it is difficult to explain to a Christian about the jw belief.

I agree the jw's have no concept of Grace whatsoever. I believe they must at some point do some real soul or bible searching to fully comprehend it and even then they have been so browbeaten they probably will always harbor the feeling that they do not deserve God's Grace. (guess they can't really do soul searching seeing as they don't have one of those either)

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What was it like being a JW in the 1960's and 1970's

by UnshackleTheChains in

this is obviously a question for the older generation.

i'm really curious what it was like to be a witness in the 60's and 70's?.

was the society as strict as it is today?.

carla

Tell a jw who joined later about these stories and they will not believe it! Even if they ask the older ones in the cong about these sorts of stories the older ones deny or have forgotten. My jw does not believe ANY negative stories about being a jw. He believes these stories are the anomalies and "merely overzealous individual nut job parents like you could have in any religion".

Or, ask an older jw about such things and they go off on a tangent about how they personally knew Franz or Knorr and fondly remember being a child when they came to visit............. weird, they think namedropping men like this is a good thing? anyway that was a rare experience I had with an elder once. One of my very rare interactions years ago. Ugh, I shudder to even think of that day. The only humorous thing about that day was when I spread out all my apostate books & stuff on the kh library table and it wouldn't all fit!

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J.W.'s shut their minds to this teaching

by The Searcher in

one of the "elephants in the room" which j.w.

's will not and cannot question or discuss, is the org's dogma that a person's own death wipes out their sins!..

when active, i asked two c.o.

carla

Yes, I think they are taught that in the bs class! Perhaps an ex jw can enlighten us on this. Oh, never mind, as a regular poster likes to say, let's review, it's a cult.

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J.W.'s shut their minds to this teaching

by The Searcher in

one of the "elephants in the room" which j.w.

's will not and cannot question or discuss, is the org's dogma that a person's own death wipes out their sins!..

when active, i asked two c.o.

carla

Years ago I asked my jw about this very thing! he was flummoxed by the question. I asked, "if you believe that YOUR death absolves you of sin then why do you need Jesus at all? why did He need to die upon the cross?" (nevermind the cross/stake issue here for the moment) His answer was full of umm's and mumbling and then he came up with, "Jesus is our King!" as if that answered the question. Then naturally he attempted to change the subject to, "it wasn't a cross blah, blah, blah....." and never got around to actually answering the original question. sigh.

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Amazing YouTuber talking to JWs

by Listener in

i recently came across a female youtuber called "bridget azaz".

she has made a number of youtubes recording discussions that she has had with a number of jws.

she does an excellant job and i thought i would make mention of her here.there appears to be another youtube site that either she or someone else has created with a couple of her interviews which have been touched up from the originals on her 'bridget azaz' site.this is one of them and i think you will enjoy it.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkescwpafmu&feature=em-subs_digest.

carla

She did an awesome job!

I wish my jw would knock on her door.

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JW Victims

by zeb in

check the jw victims site, new inquiry in uk.

carla

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Your opinion is watchtower extremist?

by poopie in

jw
friends

court gave 4 reasons you agree disagree.

carla

Yes.

So many good posts here today!

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Do You Miss The "Red Dot"?

by minimus in

jw
friends

lol ...if you are new here, you might not understand the question..

carla

Yes, I liked the red dot!

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Could a petition to make shunning illegal work?

by aboveusonlysky in

jw
friends

we're currently watching leah remini's series about scientology and the main thing she seems to focus on is the shunning policies of the scientology organization which let's face it are very similar to jw procedure.. i was wondering with all that's in the media recently about bullying could a petition be put together to get the goverment to consider making religiously mandated shunning illegal?

has such a thing been tried before?.

https://petition.parliament.uk/help says the following - .

carla

While you cannot regulate love, a petition could bring the policy of shunning by jw's to the public's attention. Make it very public. Not sure how UK laws work concerning human rights etc...

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Anyone know what the special talk is this weekend?

by charity7 in

non jw so thank you for bearing with me.

do special talks happen with individual congregations or is it throughout?

i was told by my husband that i had to go with him and the rest of his family to the special talk that was happening this weekend.

carla

Thanks Skepsis, I had forgotten this tradition after their annual reject Jesus memorial. Must be a senior moment?