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  Your opinion is watchtower extremist?

  by poopie in

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  court gave 4 reasons you agree disagree.

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  carla

  Yes.

  So many good posts here today!
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  Do You Miss The "Red Dot"?

  by minimus in

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  lol ...if you are new here, you might not understand the question..

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  carla

  Yes, I liked the red dot!
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  Could a petition to make shunning illegal work?

  by aboveusonlysky in

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  we're currently watching leah remini's series about scientology and the main thing she seems to focus on is the shunning policies of the scientology organization which let's face it are very similar to jw procedure.. i was wondering with all that's in the media recently about bullying could a petition be put together to get the goverment to consider making religiously mandated shunning illegal?

  has such a thing been tried before?.

  https://petition.parliament.uk/help says the following - .

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  carla

  While you cannot regulate love, a petition could bring the policy of shunning by jw's to the public's attention. Make it very public. Not sure how UK laws work concerning human rights etc...
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  Anyone know what the special talk is this weekend?

  by charity7 in

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  non jw so thank you for bearing with me.

  do special talks happen with individual congregations or is it throughout?

  i was told by my husband that i had to go with him and the rest of his family to the special talk that was happening this weekend.

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  carla

  Thanks Skepsis, I had forgotten this tradition after their annual reject Jesus memorial. Must be a senior moment?
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  1 Timothy 2 says to "Pray for Kings and those in high postitons". Why don't JWs do that?

  by NikL in

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  surely the jaydubs have read these scriptures.. it seems pretty plain even in their own bible.. 2 first of all, then, i urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgiving be made concerning all sorts of men, 2 concerning kings and all those who are in high positions, so that we may go on leading a calm and quiet life with complete godly devotion and seriousness.+ 3 this is fine and acceptable in the sight of our savior, god,+ 4 whose will is that all sorts of people should be saved+ and come to an accurate knowledge of truth.

  5 for there is one god,+ and one mediator+ between god and men,+ a man, christ jesus,+ 6 who gave himself a corresponding ransom for all —this is what is to be witnessed to in its own due time.. .

  i looked up the word "intercession" and it is defined as.... intercession or intercessory prayer is the act of praying to a deity on behalf of others.. i looked for reference to this passage in the jw library and the article i found put the emphasis on "living a quiet calm life with seriousness and godly devotion".

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  carla

  I have asked my jw in the past if he prays for our leaders (President, congress, senate, local govt, etc..) using Romans 13:1-

  Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God.-NIV

  and the 1 Tim. 2 scripture as quoted above (not from a wt bible, naturally)

  His response? anger. I was surprised at that time he didn't pull out the gb blah, blah, blah. Though when he first joined the gb were not the rock stars they are today. His response was surprising to me and I think he had some cognitive dissonance going on therefore he could only respond with anger.
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  Anyone know what the special talk is this weekend?

  by charity7 in

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  non jw so thank you for bearing with me.

  do special talks happen with individual congregations or is it throughout?

  i was told by my husband that i had to go with him and the rest of his family to the special talk that was happening this weekend.

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  carla

  Is this during regular meeting time? or is it yet another way to get people to the kh at off meeting time? just a regular Sunday? thanks.
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  How did you feel when you got baptized?

  by Schnufti in

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  back in 2005, i remember sitting in the stadium in the special rows with 42 others.

  8000 people were looking at us - maybe even with a binocular - while listening to the speech.

  my family and my friends among them, being all proud of me.. i don't remember being enthusiastic.

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  carla

  "maybe even with a binocular" - do any of you find that a bit creepy? or is it just me?
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  So, any comments from the Memorial?

  by NewYork44M in

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  perhaps i missed the comments, but i did not see a lot of comments from, or about, the memorial.

  it happened last night, right?.

  in years past the jwn board was hot with comments.

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  carla

  Perry,

  "And when He had taken a cup and given thanks, He gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you; for this is My blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for forgiveness of sins. Mt. 26: 27, 28"

  Does the wt Bible leave out "all of you"?
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  Animals, Blood, Food, and JW Beliefs

  by dubstepped in

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  i'm just thinking aloud here.

  i watched a show yesterday and they were talking about how the largest mammals of the sea (whales) fed on such small creatures (plankton) rather than eating some other large creatures.

  anyway, it got me thinking about how as jws we thought that in paradise animals would all be herbivores, that they would no longer eat other animals.

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  carla

  Don't they say satan made some of the things like mosquitoes just to mess things up for us? I thought my jw told me that was a theory once but he was a new jw at that time so maybe some random jw told him that theory (?)
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  Proof they are not a cult??

  by lriddle80 in

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  the following is from a facebook post and..maybe i am missing something, but none of these items disprove them being in a cult.

  jehovah's witnesses are often mistaken to be something else.

  some say it a secret cult while others believe something else.......i'm very proud to tell you my readers that i'm one of jehovah's witnesses.. below are 17 facts that shows jehovah's witness is not a cult..... 1. there are currently about 8 million jehovah's witnesses around the world.. 2. an average of over 800 people become jehovah's witnesses daily.. 3. we keep coming to your doors even though we have regular jobs and family like you because we are admonished to do so by jesus christ.. 4. we do not participate in wars and for this reason more than 1600 jehovah's witnesses were killed by hitler.. 5. there are currently over 300 jehovah's witnesses in prison in south korea and egypt because they refused to stop preaching or enlist in the military.. 6. we don't salute the flag or say national anthems because we pledge our allegiance only to god.. 7. yes we have fun and party too so don't get that twisted.. 8. not many of us know the name of the president of our headquarters because we do not pay any reference to him he is a fellow servant of god just like the rest of us are.. 9. you earn the privilege of becoming a jehovah's witness.

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  carla

  Ok, I will feed the troll today. Here a just a few reasons why jw's are a cult- from Steve Hasaan bit model- learn more here https://freedomofmind.com/bite-model/

  Behavior Control

  • Promote dependence and obedience
  • Modify behavior with rewards and punishments
  • Dictate where and with whom you live
  • Restrict or control sexuality
  • Control clothing and hairstyle
  • Regulate what and how much you eat and drink
  • Deprive you of seven to nine hours of sleep
  • Exploit you financially
  • Restrict leisure time and activities
  • Require you to seek permission for major decisions

  Information Control

  • Deliberately withhold and distort information
  • Forbid you from speaking with ex-members and critics
  • Discourage access to non-cult sources of information
  • Divide information into Insider vs. Outsider doctrine
  • Generate and use propaganda extensively
  • Use information gained in confession sessions against you
  • Gaslight to make you doubt your own memory
  • Require you to report thoughts, feelings, & activities to superiors
  • Encourage you to spy and report on others’ “misconduct”

  Thought Control

  • Instill Black vs. White, Us vs. Them, & Good vs. Evil thinking
  • Change your identity, possibly even your name
  • Use loaded language and cliches to stop complex thought
  • Induce hypnotic or trance states to indoctrinate
  • Teach thought-stopping techniques to prevent critical thoughts
  • Allow only positive thoughts
  • Use excessive meditation, singing, prayer, & chanting to block thoughts
  • Reject rational analysis, critical thinking, & doubt

  Emotional Control

  • Instill irrational fears (phobias) of questioning or leaving the group
  • Label some emotions as evil, worldly, sinful, or wrong
  • Teach emotion-stopping techniques to prevent anger, homesickness
  • Promote feelings of guilt, shame, & unworthiness
  • Shower you with praise and attention (“love bombing”)
  • Threaten your friends and family
  • Shun you if you disobey or disbelieve
  • Teach that there is no happiness or peace outside the group