I built my new system and installed Vista. Never had a problem with it. That being said, my next computer will be a Mac. It will be a laptop.
noontide
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Trying the Windows Vista Service Pack 1 (RC - Build 6001)
by Elsewhere ini work in the it field which means i'm able to get my hands on samples and pre-release products for review and testing.
today i installed the windows vista service pack 1 (release candidate).
the final version is scheduled for public release around february 2008.. first to answer the question that a lot of you are wondering: why did i upgrade to vista to being with?
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noontide
From the OC. Anaheim to be exact.
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Meet-up in Long Beach Sat. Oct. 6 at noon
by Shawn10538 in55 alamitos .
coffee caliente coffee shop .
all invited - free - cool spot to hang
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noontide
Sounds like fun! I'll put it on my calendar, but if it's not too much trouble PM those attending so we wont forget. Thanks!
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noontide
I’ve liked his music ever since I was little and could sneak his cassettes into my house. He is a very talented musician, but I realize he is not everyone’s cup of tea. I’ve been to 7 of his concerts and it’s interesting to see his musical/spiritual evolution. His music has always straddled the spiritual side of things so when he started studying with the Witnesses it did not surprise me.
We fell for the Witness banter once, didn’t we? So did he. Let’s hope he learns the truth about the truth. -
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Did I just get lucky?
by noontide infirst off let me apologize for the long post, but i really needed to talk about this.
ive been coming to this site for over a year now.
though i dont post much, i really enjoy the banter here and also enjoy reading about the events in your lives.
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noontide
Hey everyone thanks for your responses. You are right and I do try to live my life the best way possible. Honestly I don’t know if what I feel is guilt or something else. I see my family and they are so happy and blissful in their ignorance within the Org. that sometimes ignorance can seem like bliss. If it wasn’t for my libido I’d probably still be in, as ignorant as they are. But all of you are right, I now know the real truth and no matter how I found out, I can only move forward from here. And just to clarify one thing, I can and do remain monogamous when I am in a relationship. I’ve seen what other people go through when a partner is unfaithful and I never want to be in that position or cause someone that kind of pain. Again, thanks for your responses, I’ll make a copy of this thread and read it often when I begin to doubt myself.
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Did I just get lucky?
by noontide infirst off let me apologize for the long post, but i really needed to talk about this.
ive been coming to this site for over a year now.
though i dont post much, i really enjoy the banter here and also enjoy reading about the events in your lives.
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noontide
First off let me apologize for the long post, but I really needed to talk about this.
I’ve been coming to this site for over a year now. Though I don’t post much, I really enjoy the banter here and also enjoy reading about the events in your lives. One thing that caught my attention almost immediately was how some of you had doubts and eventually came to realize that some things were not right with the “Organization”. With the help of books such as “Crisis of the Conscience” (I’ve yet to buy my copy, but I will) you saw the WTBTS for what it is…a sham.
I wish I could say the same about me. I believed every word I was taught since I was a child. I never doubted anything for a second. I had a lot of friends, I was given privileges, and I felt good knowing that I was doing God’s will. I was going to save the world one person at a time (through preaching) and live forever here on earth. I was happy. I did however have one major personal flaw. I liked sex. I’m not saying this trying to be salacious, crass or dirty. I just have a strong sex drive. My teen years were difficult for me as I began to lead a double life. I was a good boy at the hall and since no Witness kids went to my school I dated the girls at my school and fooled around quite a bit. I thought I was surely going to die at Armageddon. Since I could not be a good Witness, I refused to get baptized. Of course everyone wondered why and I would just say I wasn’t ready. I was 17 years old and not baptized, not a good thing in the hall, as we all know. Just before graduating High School I decided I was going to get my act together and qualify for baptism at the next District Convention. I prayed like you wouldn’t believe. I prayed for forgives, I prayed for strength, I just prayed for Jehovah’s help. I don’t know what it was but something worked and at 18 years old I got baptized. I was good for the next five years. I became a regular pioneer, I was appointed a Ministerial Servant and I was given a lot of privileges. The only problem was that my sex drive did not diminish. I fought it tooth and nail and I figured the only way to remedy this situation was to get married. But I was only 23; I had a lousy job and no education (but I was a pioneer!). How was I going to support a wife? I knew that getting married was only going to create more problems and getting married just so I could have sex? Not a good reason. It would not have been fair to her or me. So I did something stupid. I began to lead a double life again. I dated worldly women and was the exemplary brother in the hall. Don’t get me wrong, I did not slut around. I was never a “mimbo” or anything. I had meaningful relationships with the girls I was going out with (3 total – dating at different times of course, not all 3 at once) but I also had the added benefit of a sexual relationship. These girls were not looking to get married either, at least not at that time, we were all too young and all three of them were attending college and pursuing their respective careers. I did this for 3 or 4 years and never got caught, but I was sure Jehovah was going to kill me at Armageddon. The guilt was unbearable, I felt like a hypocrite (which I guess I was being) and I decided to leave the organization. I faded, and to my surprise no one really made a big fuss about it. I received one last call from an elder asking for my time sheet and I never heard from anyone from the hall again. By the way, all my family is still in and they know that something triggered my departure, but they don’t ask and I don’t tell.
I was now out and I felt like a total failure. I had given up everlasting life for sex. Pathetic. I still believed everything the Watchtower said; I still believed they were God’s organization here on earth. Come Armageddon, I was as good as dead. Flash-forward a few years later and lo-and-behold I come across this site. I’ve learned quite a few things about the Organization that if I were still in I would never have known. The Org is riddled with flaws (to put if mildly) just as I have my “flaw” of a healthy libido. I still believe in God (not the Watchtower), I still refer to him as Jehovah. I try to lead a good life and be a good person. I just hope he understands the way I was “created.” I don’t slut myself around. I don’t have kids all over the place; matter of fact I don’t have any children. I still hope to find that one woman that I can love and share my life with. Actually, believe it or not, I’m a one-woman kind of man and a bit of a romantic. But why should I feel guilty if I physically love someone before marriage?
However, there are times when I think that finding out the true nature of the Watchtower Society is just an excuse to make me feel better and to give me an excuse to continue doing things my way. Did I really just luck out finding the truth about the “Truth?” I know, it’s a bit confusing but that’s how I feel, I don’t know how else to word it. Did we all just get lucky so we could do what we always wanted to, but could not do while in the Org? Celebrate holidays, drink, smoke, curse, have sex, etc.? I know this is not the case with everyone and I don’t mean to insult anyone, again, it’s just how I feel sometimes. I’ll never go back to the Org. but sometimes (such as today) I do think about this. Sorry for the long post. I just had to get this off my chest. -
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UN finally announces end of Religion
by NotaNess inthis seems to be a topic on the beginning of the big a, that i dont see on this forum.
a jw i work with seems to live his life waiting & emphasizing this one sign.
whats deal, im tired of hearing.
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noontide
One of the outlines for a public talk I used to give was based on this idea. I think it was entitled, "What will the future bring?" I actually enjoyed giving this talk, as the brothers would always talk about this for days after the discourse. However, if memory serves me right the outline did not mention anything about the UN destroying the world’s religions. I never mentioned anything about the UN destroying the world’s religions. I remember clearly stating that government would put an end to religion, but as to what government or governments we did not know. We just had to keep vigilant because once it happened, it would signal the beginning of the end and the government(s) would be coming after us; Jehovah’s Witnesses!
It was actually quite exciting. Usually a murmur would go through the crowd at this point. I always took it to be that the military would follow their own government’s decree, but that all the nations would be in agreement to sink “Babylon the Great”. Never once did I mention anything about the UN, but then again, I never really stuck to the script, it used to drive the elders crazy! -
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should i go?
by bigdreaux inokay, as most of you know, my sisters and brother in law are in town for a wedding.
the girl getting married is a really good friend of mine.
we kind of sorta dated, but, since she was not scriptually free, and i wasn't about to wait for that, nothing ever really came of it.
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noontide
I would say go. Take a small present, wish her and her husband well and leave. Just because you go doesn’t mean you have to stay too long. And by all means don’t drink. Now is your chance to show everyone that leaving the borg does not make you an out of control individual. It will show your class and style and make your friend happy. After you leave, meet up with some friends and then drink up.
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Dating Profile Religion
by frogit ini fed up being alone and looking for that "special soul mate" so i have signed up to direct dating to help find her.
one of the profile headings is religion: so thought i had better check this quiz out just to be sure.
look what came last lol!!
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noontide
According to the website my top three faiths are: 1. Reform Judaism (100%) 2. Islam (90%) 3. Orthodox Judaism (90%) In case you were wondering, JW’s came at number: 15. Jehovah's Witness (53%) Fun site!
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I Feel so alone
by aussie inhi everyone, well im totally new at this but i thought i would give it a go anyway.so here is my story(short version).
well i have been with my boyfriend for 2yrs now and the last 4months he has started to get back into witnessing.
i have said from day one that i dont want to be one, but i did attend a meeting, memorial and some studys i did this for him to see what it was all about.
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noontide
Are you happy in your current situation? Have things changed between both of you since he decided to go back to the Witness? How drastic was the change? If he is serious about returning to the Witness, this situation and the problems you are facing will not change, they will only get worse. Sorry to put it so bluntly but it’s the truth.
2) Try to reason with him and hope stops the Witness comeback process.
3) Break up with him.