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  My new avatar? The well-hung squirrel is out... NICE TO MEET THE REAL ME!

  by upside/down in

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  i was afraid people might think i was trying to "compensate" for something... ya know it's a "guy" thing.

  i'm told (jnbnz) it's a black and white pic of a couple.

  because i can't... i think the deemunz have possesed my 'puter.

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  i see a couple in colour...is that you and your wifey? you're both very well looking

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  Seventh Open Letter

  by Rijk Janssen in

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  seventh open letter to the dutch branch office and the headquarters of the watchtower society in brooklyn new york for the personal attention of brother

  ted jaracz

  maarssen, .

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  hoi Rijk, welkom op het forum

  Bas

  PS Shouldn't we organize a protest on april 10th?
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  the love of money is the root of all evil? or is it?

  by zen nudist in

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  i have not see anyone mention this..... but it seems to me that money is the one unifying force the world over, as more and more countries become just different aspects of the corporate world world peace seems more likely than anything religion has ever been able to accomplish... war is bad for business over all which is something you dont hear with regard to drug trafficking.... the more an area is dominated by one drug dealer the more peaceful the neighborhood as he finds violence on his turf to interfer with his money.

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  not of all evil that's for sure but greed in general does cause some problems, even if only indirectly.

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  are we god's imaginary friends?

  by Bas in

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  or is god our collective imaginary friend?

  which one is it?

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  well, how about we imagined eachother?
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  are we god's imaginary friends?

  by Bas in

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  or is god our collective imaginary friend?

  which one is it?

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  or is god OUR collective imaginary friend? which one is it?
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  Meaning of Amen

  by finnrot in

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  when i was a kid my dad told me that when you said "amen" at the end of your prayer, that it meant "praise to jehovah".

  i was listening to howard stern this morning and they were discussing the death of the pope, and they mentioned that his last word was "amen".

  robin(the woman that does the news on the howard stern radio show) asked them what they thought that "amen" meant.

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  I heard that when the pope's heart stopped he said "amen" with his last breath and died

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  What do you know about philosophy?

  by Bas in

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  what do you know about philosophy and philosophers?

  i know many philosphers who were inspired by the bible in their writings, but .

  i'm more curious about the "secular" philosophers.

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  Poppers, philsophies are in general, generalisations. They are tools to describe and understand reality but are of limited use in one's personal life. I agree that you shouldn't expect philosphy to solve your daily problems, they won't just as religion won't do that. But philosophy as the basis of science, for instance psychology does give us the basis for understanding alot of things, including yourself. But there's no substitute for living firsthand, I agree. Don't stare blindly at philosophy just as you shouldn't stare blindly at religion.

  Robert and SeattleNG, thanks for sharing the key points of Objectivism. In fact I have subcribed to some of those points for years, just didn't know who formulated them:

  the best way to live is with rational self-interest. She argues that no one truly does things altruistically anyway, so when they pretend that they do, they are not being honest.

  with his own happiness as the moral purpose of his life

  I think to some people these observations might feel cold but I view them as absolutely true. In practice though, diffrent people have diffrent things which make them happy. I do agree this is highly fertile ground to do more research on. Never has everything been said if you go from here I believe, literally billions of practical situations which you can apply this theory on to test it. I might do a little on it myself as a matter of fact. I was getting bored by determinism as it is. (though I firmly believe in it)

  well I think from now on I'll describe myself as a practical objectivist determinist LOL

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  What do you know about philosophy?

  by Bas in

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  what do you know about philosophy and philosophers?

  i know many philosphers who were inspired by the bible in their writings, but .

  i'm more curious about the "secular" philosophers.

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  Hey Robert , would you care to explain the key points of objectivism? sounds like this guy was pretty full of himself btw. But please I'm curious now, Share!

  For me, I'm a selfdescribed "practical determinist"..meaning that i think everything is connected through causality through wich past, present and future are fixed. The practical part means that I just take life as it comes.

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  ps, here's a link on determinism:

  http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/determinism-causal/
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  What do you know about philosophy?

  by Bas in

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  what do you know about philosophy and philosophers?

  i know many philosphers who were inspired by the bible in their writings, but .

  i'm more curious about the "secular" philosophers.

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  Here's a fragment regarding atomic theory from the site that I put in the thread earlier:

  Epicurus and the Epicureans

  The ancient atomists (Leucippus and Democritus) had already worked out a systematic description of the natural world comprising many particular material particles, whose mechanical interactions account for everything that happens. In the Hellenistic period, attention turned to the consequences of such a view for the conduct of human life.
  

  Epicurus and his followers pointed out (in the Principle Doctrines, for example) that since the indestructible atoms that constitute the material world move, swerve, and collide entirely by chance, everything that happens in the universe lies outside the reach of direct human control. (Notice how this position projects Hellenistic political impotence onto the natural world.) Human life is, therefore, essentially passive: all we can do is to experience what goes on, without supposing ourselves capable of changing it. Even so, Epicurus held that this sort of life may be a good one, if the experiences are mostly pleasant ones.

  I think Democritus should be credited with formulating the first atomic theory:

  Democritus (460-370 BCE)

  Presocratic Greek philosopher. As the originator of classical atomism, Democritus maintained in opposition to the Eleatics that the universe comprises a plurality of distinct entities that really do move. The haphazard collisions of these individually indestructible atoms, he believed, account for the formation and dissolution of all observable things. Long before its appropriation by Epicurus, this doctrine produced an attitude toward human life that earned Democritus a reputation as "the laughing philosopher."

  hmm...this didn't cut and paste right...here's the page then (scroll down to the second paragraph called Epicurus and Epicureans)
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  My Last Post

  by kaykay_mp in

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  it's been really inspiring looking at the many posts and threads on this board, and i've enjoyed posting quite a few myself.

  regretfully, i feel that it's time to move on in my quest for inner peace, but i will always cherish meeting many friends along the way who support me.

  i've had both bad times and good times here, but it was time well spent.

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  awww....you really managed me to feel down thanks...i hope you stick around. I like you, you know

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