Posts by LongHairGal

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Retirement savings

by TxNVSue2023 in

what's the current jw stance on retirement savings?

i know it changed.

pre1975 it was an attitude of "don't worry about retirement, this system is ending soon".

LongHairGal

TEDDNZO:

Yes, I totally agree with you and I never listened to a word the religion said - especially seeing all those older JWs collecting their pensions..The poverty being pushed wasn’t for them!

I followed my gut and did what was best for me and held onto that job they all hated me for!

By the way, there is no more any such thing as ‘cheap rental accommodations’. Rents are high. Some people were lucky and hit it right and were able to buy. But, the fact is: anybody who didn’t get a decent job is unable to do either.

It is near impossible to live in the world if somebody was in full-time ministry for forty years, maybe working part-time and living in a fantasy inside their head.. The idea being Armageddon would surely come and save them from not preparing for their old age - that they were told they’d never see!

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Why Jehovah's Witnesses are WRONG about Christmas

by David_Jay in

as you know (and are probably tired of hearing me repeat), i’m jewish.

yes, i was a jehovah’s witness when i was a teenager and into my 20s, but returned to my roots and now celebrate chanukah when the holiday season comes around each year.. so why am i writing about christmas?

well, that’s because i thought i would share something about how jehovah’s witnesses teach against christmas.

LongHairGal

I am in agreement with LOU BOU TO even though this person is probably not on the forum anymore.

Yes, I believe the religion hates Christmas and other holidays because it seeks to separate and isolate JWs from the rest of the world - and especially their non-JW relatives. The pagan excuse is just that: an excuse. Everything is pagan: the months, the days of the week, wedding rings, etc.

I was not raised a JW and when I started my ‘Fade’ the first thing I did was to re-establish contact with estranged relatives. I sent out Holiday cards and it felt so good to reconnect with these people before it was too late. From then on I made sure I celebrated Christmas because I had such happy memories from childhood.

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You might be a JW if you...

by Ron.W. in

this is a little out of date.

i found it earlier deleting some emails from a good few years ago:.

feel free to add new lines to this old list!.

LongHairGal

Wow, these are all so true. Some are funny but others are just plain sad. Like the last example Jo-fi_wofo posted above about the 75 year old still shunned!

I thought of a few:

If you think that your non-Witness relatives or anybody who leaves the religion must be in a miserable/sinful state (meanwhile they are happy and successful) - you might just be a JW.

If you pioneer for decades and look down on/avoid people in the hall with careers as ‘unspiritual’ and still imagine these people should owe you $omething - you might just be a very deluded JW.

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This Generation/ 1975

by TxNVSue2023 in

i was born in 1977 & came in as a convert in 2003 --- so i have no idea what went on before my time.. however i have been familiar with the scriptures of "nobody knows the day or hour" & " it will come as a theif in the night" meaning that it was sure but unpredictable time.

how could anyone belive that anyone else ( organization or not) put a date on it?.

also what was the significance of 1975 anyway?

LongHairGal

ROAD TO NOWHERE:

Too bad I wasn’t told about the 1975 failure when I was ‘studying’ with the Witnesses.

They made sure this information was kept hidden from potential converts. There was no internet in the late ‘70s and I didn’t know the history of the JW religion. If I did, I might have had second thoughts about getting involved with them. We can never really know how our life would have turned out if we took a different path.. But, I’m just grateful now I resisted these busybodies from interfering with my life/job years ago.

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'They knew and let it happen!' What's your propaganda meter showing?

by was a new boy in

remember the spotlight movie?.

https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/ae250e9e-8f1a-45bb-b757-47c0149cafb3.

as a kid mum told me usa was warned about the coming pearl harbor attack.. 9/11 and covid-19, history repeating.

LongHairGal

IOWNMYLIFE:

Yes, I heard that story of what happened in WWII… But, recent events - Who knows? If what some think is true: the obvious unthinkable thought would be that governments sacrificed their own citizens. Nobody wants to believe this! I want to believe it was an intelligence lapse.

I was just watching some news videos and it seems the Israelis do not want to negotiate for the hostages!.. Whether this will change who knows? Those poor people!

ROAD TO NOWHERE:

Good point bringing up if they even had guns to protect themselves at that kibbutz! I guess not.👎 But this was a pre-dawn raid and even well-trained people can be caught by surprise!.. As time goes on, we’ll hear more about what happened there and what has to change there in the future to prevent anything like this from happening again!

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Real reasons behind this change?

by Gorb in

jw
friends

just a good conversation at home about the hour report change.. we think the change was not impmemented because the gb are such a lovely bunch of old grandpa's having the best in mind for us individuals.. there will be only, and we say only, an organizational reason for it.

a legal reason, to protect jw.org and it's officials and wealth.. next step?

maybe selling more kh and when jw hollywood studio's in rampoo are ready a change to tv subscription.. what do you think?

LongHairGal

TRUTHLOVER223:

I had heard of a few people in the JW religion who quit good jobs to pioneer - only to end up broke and have to find work again. I am glad you found good jobs before it was too late.

Maybe my non-JW upbringing saved me from the pioneering absurdity in the late ‘70s and ‘80s! .. They tried to pressure me to quit my job!

When I heard about this shocking news that no more FS hours reports were needed - the first thing I thought about were Witnesses who pioneered their whole lives. I felt sick to my stomach because I would not be retired if I fell for this garbage!!!

When I think about it now, it is all worth it to have been unpopular back then and not invited to special dinners!.. Like as though this nonsense would mean anything today!

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Why do Catholics pray to Mary/saints?

by BoogerMan in

jw
friends

a very good friend of many years told me that he prays to mary and makes requests.

i didn't try to discuss/debate the subject - his choice - but wondered how catholics would view these scriptures: .

(john 14:6) jesus answered, “i am the way and the truth and the life.

LongHairGal

BOOGER MAN:

I was raised Roman Catholic and we certainly did pray to saints as well as pray to God (for which we had no other name except ‘Father’ as in ‘Our Father’ or ‘Dear Father in heaven’ etc.).

You ask why? It was never explained why and nobody questioned it. As far as quoting those scriptures, we only used missals. Maybe if somebody had a bible in their home they read from the gospels. I would have to say the average person was bible illiterate and only knew maybe Genesis and Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.

You must be younger than me because the churches in general didn’t start having the parishioners using bibles until maybe the ‘70s and later when there was a religious revival in the country.

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I think circuit overseers should have a job like the apostle Paul

by forzaitalia in

am i being mean, thinking that travelling overseers should get a part-time job like paul did, in order to not be a burden to the congregation?

i wouldn't put my hand up when we were asked to raise it if we were happy to give £50 from congregation funds to the c.o.

so that he could take his wife out for a meal.

LongHairGal

EASY PROMPT:

Absolutely correct. Today, what is happening in JW congregations is something they never expected.

Many Witnesses who spent decades in the ministry instead of having decent jobs with benefits, paying into SS, etc. have now reached retirement age totally unprepared! The ‘End’ they had all hoped for and were told would save them from having to plan, has not arrived in time enough to deliver them from the consequences of inaction.

To add insult to the injury, many have left the JW religion (including responsible individuals like myself).. Therefore, there are fewer JWs for elders to approach discreetly with an envelope/sob story asking for money for people there who never wanted to work!

The religion maybe did not foresee all this. Maybe they didn’t care or imagined somebody ELSE was going to care for all these people misled by faulty teachings!

When you think about it, even the most stupidest so-called ‘worldly’ people know they will get old and have to prepare somehow.. So, it’s hard to feel sorry for Witnesses who bought into this frenzy of pioneering decades ago - believing they would never get old and did not need to $ave or prepare!

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I think circuit overseers should have a job like the apostle Paul

by forzaitalia in

am i being mean, thinking that travelling overseers should get a part-time job like paul did, in order to not be a burden to the congregation?

i wouldn't put my hand up when we were asked to raise it if we were happy to give £50 from congregation funds to the c.o.

so that he could take his wife out for a meal.

LongHairGal

FORZAITALIA:

I agree that they most definitely should have a job to support themselves, like Paul did.. As a person who got knocked and laughed at for working, I feel very strongly about this.

I am going to shoot some holes in the mentality that people in the JW religion are going to ‘give money to those who don’t want to work so they can go knocking on doors’. 🤣 Sorry, but I never believed this. Don’t want to work? Don’t eat.

Likewise, I never gave anything to pioneers who didn’t want to work….I had a full-time job that I refused to quit to ‘pioneer’ and live on the edge. I retired when it was time.

With this latest ‘understanding’ about the average JW no longer needing to turn in reports about ‘field service’ hours, I am ever so Glad I never listened to the religion years ago.

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'They knew and let it happen!' What's your propaganda meter showing?

by was a new boy in

remember the spotlight movie?.

https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/ae250e9e-8f1a-45bb-b757-47c0149cafb3.

as a kid mum told me usa was warned about the coming pearl harbor attack.. 9/11 and covid-19, history repeating.

LongHairGal

WAS A NEW BOY:

My God, I hope you’re wrong about this. That phone alert we all had several days ago makes me and some I know very uneasy! 😳