the native american indians, always felt that the spirits spoke to them in visions.
often these were referred to as vision quest.
vision that through a source of odd and some what unrelated visions that explained something to you that might happen or might be happening and needs attention.
The only religion that uses peyote legally is the NAC(Native American Church). Usually a roadman travels mainly to Texas to get the peyote buttons for this ceremony. Some NAC members do have visions and its usually up to the individual to talk about their vision. Some native tribes do not use peyote to get visions. They have spirit guides and spirit animals to help them. I'm not a member of the NAC but once in my lifetime I did get a vision that came true.
~desbah~
Merry Christmas Country Woman and a Happy New Year
i just returned home from the kingdom hall.
i am an elder.. after the meeting all the elders were called to the back room.
i thought this was an impromptu elders' meeting.
Gary,
Your thread is interesting that so many people responded with excellent advice for you. They care about you and your young family and the burden you are under. The statement you made about;
The PO said, there are some publishers wondering why your children are not trained.
caught my attention. Gary, you are not being treated with RESPECT the PO has no right to say this about your family. Please learn from others who have been through painful experiences to leave this religious cult.
~desbah~
i'll start:.
hey brother smith, how about if we go preach the good news tomorrow morning, hey?
pick you up at 9
".......we're offering the Watchtower along with its companion the Awake for a contribution of 25 cents to cover the cost of printing"
LOL...I remember saying this when we went out with "sister know it all."
another line I heard from sister know it all...."oh, wouldn't it be a blessing after armageddon I would get to see my husband and you'll see your father."
is there life after death or does everything end there until the resurrection?
all ex jws were at one time taught that there is no life after death except for a tiny elite group who are destined to never taste death by immediately entering into a spiritual angel like body and will carry on living albeit in a different dimension.
far from dreading death to them it is a blessing since it sends them into a new far more glorious life.
hummm.....I always wanted to know about that whole Lazarus story....how I wish Baba Wawa has alive in Jesus time...wow, hell of a good time to interview Jesus and Lazarus...
i looked to see if there was a welcome thread for leftbehind...sorry if i missed it.. but, welcome anyway.
we are not what you think or was taught we are.
you are welcome here, and if you choose to stay around, you will no doubt find what it means to have unconditional love and respect not just for and from others...but for yourself.. wlg
welcome leftbehind....
interesting name.....leftbehind......reminds of the leftbehind series.
my brother is a self proclaimed apostate.
i see now that there is a wide variety of posters here.
so to those that have left the witnesses what would it take to get you back?
Leftbehind,
Sorry to hear about your family, but I think you should respect and accept your brother decision. Try not to control him with the fear of Jehovah God. I have learn to live with the good and the bad and not pushing my faith on someone else, I do believe in God and Jesus but I will not step afoot in a Kingdum Hall again.
~desbah~
my wife and i have a new cat - a 7 month old blue smoke persian named olly (pedigree name is pannonius olympian).
olympian he is too - weighing in at 5kg already !!.
he's extremely timid, and hides pretty much constantly, meowing (squeaking now cos i think he's made his throat sore, poor mite).
I owned several cats...some of my cats were indoor and outdoor cats. To train a indoor cat it take time and patience and they make good companions but I prefer a outdoor cat mainly its because they are natural born hunters. My outdoor cats learn the skills of hunting rodents and one of my cat (Elvis) even learn to kill small snakes and lizards. The only problem that I have with outdoor cats is that they fight with other cats, so we have to bring them inside the house (laundry room) for their protection. From what I'm told when a outdoor cat is about to pass away they leave their owners...anyone know if this is true?
i work with a guy who sleep with a lot of different woman, and when i say a lot, i mean a lot!
i know what some are thinking, "oh he probably sleeps with a few and makes it sound like more.
" well i would think that too, if i did not actually meet a lot of these woman and work with some of them and they admit to sleeping with him on a regular basis.
Love, adoration, admiration, lust, magic and fun all rolled into one: to me that is superior and the optimum. Take the love out of it and it's just not the same.
I agree with this statment flying has it right.
i work with a guy who sleep with a lot of different woman, and when i say a lot, i mean a lot!
i know what some are thinking, "oh he probably sleeps with a few and makes it sound like more.
" well i would think that too, if i did not actually meet a lot of these woman and work with some of them and they admit to sleeping with him on a regular basis.
hey TS
this dude brags about sex with all these women...it makes me wonder he's only having sex to feel good about himself, nothing more selfish than cheap sex.
~desbah~
