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  IPCC Climate Change Report........

  by cantleave in

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  .....states that there is 95% certainty climate change is man made.

  people are still saying we don't need to do anything about it.. if you were told there is a 95% risk of you dying if you don't change your diet, wouldn't you change your diet?.

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  @fig8ter

  I mean, there's all kinds of research and dissenting opinions out there. All I'm saying is, keep an open mind....look at everything. Yes there are changing weather patterns, have been for millions of years......

  Do you understand how climate and weather are different?

  Can you explain why climate changes?

  What is your basis for accepting a 3% minority position denying human-caused climate change?

  Why are you better qualified than 97% of climate scientists and every major national and international association and academy of scientists to make that call?

  Do you understand where the burden of proof lies in this debate?
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  IPCC Climate Change Report........

  by cantleave in

  1. social
  2. current

  .....states that there is 95% certainty climate change is man made.

  people are still saying we don't need to do anything about it.. if you were told there is a 95% risk of you dying if you don't change your diet, wouldn't you change your diet?.

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  @glander

  Charts and graphs by sponsered (salaried) climate change professionals do not impress me.

  Good to know your position on research is based on your perception of bias.

  Are you impressed by charts and graphs by climate science studies sponsored (paid for) by the fossil fuel industry?
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  IPCC Climate Change Report........

  by cantleave in

  1. social
  2. current

  .....states that there is 95% certainty climate change is man made.

  people are still saying we don't need to do anything about it.. if you were told there is a 95% risk of you dying if you don't change your diet, wouldn't you change your diet?.

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  @metatron

  The curve of the presented graph seems to show an actual decline rather than a flatline pause.

  

  Deniers have been playing this tired myth for a long time now. Take an arbitrary year that is very hot, wait for a 'relatively' cooler year, draw a flat line and screech that 'global warming has stopped'.

  You have to explain why the laws of physics don't apply if you accept CO2 is a greenhouse gas. Or you could get into an arcane debate on climate sensitivity, which is where the professional deniers are at these days.

  If you want to read more about the history and facts behind this particular myth see here http://www.skepticalscience.com/going-down-the-up-escalator-part-1.html
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  IPCC Climate Change Report........

  by cantleave in

  1. social
  2. current

  .....states that there is 95% certainty climate change is man made.

  people are still saying we don't need to do anything about it.. if you were told there is a 95% risk of you dying if you don't change your diet, wouldn't you change your diet?.

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  @SBF

  Judith Curry - the Daily Mail rent-a-kwote climate scientist of choice for right wing deniers

  I'm still waiting to hear why you are better qualified than 97% of mainstream climate scientists to adopt a 3% minority position.

  The logical conclusion is that you have a pre-existing outcome in mind for this debate.
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  IPCC Climate Change Report........

  by cantleave in

  1. social
  2. current

  .....states that there is 95% certainty climate change is man made.

  people are still saying we don't need to do anything about it.. if you were told there is a 95% risk of you dying if you don't change your diet, wouldn't you change your diet?.

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  @JeffT

  OK, I will be the one to post a graph. Note the flat line at the end. Did the IPCC report address this?

  What did you find out when you checked the source of the graph? What does NOAA say about climate change?
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  IPCC Climate Change Report........

  by cantleave in

  1. social
  2. current

  .....states that there is 95% certainty climate change is man made.

  people are still saying we don't need to do anything about it.. if you were told there is a 95% risk of you dying if you don't change your diet, wouldn't you change your diet?.

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  @fig8ter

  Unfortunatly

  And we should listen to you who can't spell the first word of your rant?
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  Jehovah's Witness boy fights court for right to die

  by jwfacts in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/religious-boy-fights-court-for-right-to-die-20130917-2tx5u.html.

  this is tragic.

  the boy is 17, and earlier this year the courts ruled that he was to be forced a transfusion.

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  besty

  But you are fine with the same boy choosing to refuse blood a few weeks later when he turns eighteen?

  yes because the state has drawn a line in the sand at age 18 - one is then deemed old to enough to commit medical suicide for religious beliefs - up until his 18th birthday, common sense prevails
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  Jehovah's Witness boy fights court for right to die

  by jwfacts in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/religious-boy-fights-court-for-right-to-die-20130917-2tx5u.html.

  this is tragic.

  the boy is 17, and earlier this year the courts ruled that he was to be forced a transfusion.

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  @SBF

  I would not describe socialization in a high control group from birth as coercion in itself.

  seriously?

  The threat of pissing of the Almighty and losing all your friends and family is not coercion?
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  Jehovah's Witness boy fights court for right to die

  by jwfacts in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/religious-boy-fights-court-for-right-to-die-20130917-2tx5u.html.

  this is tragic.

  the boy is 17, and earlier this year the courts ruled that he was to be forced a transfusion.

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  besty

  "Make sure he is not being coerced by all means"

  By all means? meaning what?

  Is it coercion to be raised from birth in a high control new religious movement <avoids c-word>?

  In any case the appeal judges have agreed:

  "The interest of the state is in keeping him alive until that time, after which he will be free to make his own decisions as to medical treatment."
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  New Watchtower video on "real friends"

  by cedars in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5schopnecog.

  it's difficult to imagine how this video could be more disingenuous and hypocritical.

  cedars.

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  besty

  very slick - they are changing their game - GB 2.0 indeed :-)

  The Internet is a two-edged sword and the Watchtower is very late to our party...