onegen has it - gentle mockery is a cults worst fear
"we are talking about the end of civilisation goddamit"
i feel like going to picket an assembly this summer.how do i do this?does it still happen?
ideas most welcome.thanks.
onegen has it - gentle mockery is a cults worst fear
"we are talking about the end of civilisation goddamit"
recently, several comments have been made in various threads in reference to some of the recent changes to a few of the rules by which jehovah's witnesses must live their lives in unquestioning compliance.
the assertion has been made that these rules are a "relaxing" of previous restrictions.
the suggestion has been made that this somehow indicates a corresponding relaxing or loosening or lessening of the authority which the governing body (gb) holds over the rank and file (r&f) members of the religion.
They are first exerting control over those nearest them in the hierarchy - bethelites being kicked to the curb, branches being closed and redeveloped.
Next up - the regional structure is being re-worked with new assembly day names and timings. A few new titles being thrown around.
Then the elders - new book, new school, new videos, new procedures for this and that.
Last up - joe and jane publisher - new bible to read, new book store cart, new website to visit. New tract campaign.
All to give the illusion of meaning. When in fact the net net difference is zero. No armageddon, no pet lions, no oversized vegetables and no MacMansions on the lake.
Will be interesting to see how these dictators seek control in the virtual world. They have embraced the Internet for their own purposes - will they seek to establish an alternative Internet centred around JW.org? Will they 'bless' Facebook and Twitter and offer people the chance to login into JWN with their virtual identity? Could be a new loyalty test - like underlining your Watchtower for Sunday just so others can see.
Smart dictators are realising you can't ban stuff effectively. (N Korea is the sole exception) Look at China for how I think the WTS will play this. Yes the Internet, but with information control alive and well.
they use poor reasoning, they wiggle around the question and ignore the fact the watchtower was affiliated with the united nations.
this website fails to ignore the facts that we were not allowed to join the ymca even though we did not follow the charter rules, the watchtower agreed to follow the un charter and did so from 1992 to 2001 when the scandal was exposed.. .
have any of you seen works to debunk their slanted arguments and dishonest play of words?.
Boy did you people bet of the wrong horse
sigh - why is their grammar always so poor? Opening with a poisoning the well fallacy is a winner though - way to go billy_the_skid
just reading about Whisper earlier today - another great channel for lurkers and faders to get support
good job baltar
last night my third oldest child wanted to know why we stayed in the organization so long.
child is a third year college student enjoying all the classes this "wicked system" has to offer, the insatiable appetite for learning makes him want to argue and debate, i don't have the energy to debate because i don't feel good with all life has thrown our way.. .
"the only reason i went to meetings so long was because grandma and grandpa needed somebody to take them to meetings and cobe aunt and uncle and secretary aunt and uncle refused to talk to grandma for years, otherwise i would have stopped attending the kingdom hall because the kids were assholes and i was always the one who had to make "first contact", "i was the one who had to go around and meet and greet newbies while the regular jw wall-flowers (calebs) ignored all the visitors and new persons visiting our kingdom hall.
he is angry becasue he perceives 80% of his life has been wasted.
i received an email from a jw that got married, but the wife never had sex with him.
they were together for a period of years.
he told the elders, but they said there was nothing that could be done.
somebody should write to Bethel with that *** w56 9/1 p. 533 par. 22 The Divine Origin of Marriage *** and ask if there has been new light since.
the poor thing is 86 and was told by a friend with "the internet" that the catholic church is being attacked by the un!
the tribulation is at hand.
well, if you consider a report on molestation coverups the end of religion, watch out wt, they are coming for you next.
I am not sure if the jw faithful would scream or eat a bananna.
genius - thats a keeper.. newyork44m
what a few days!
this time last week i was not even considering the big chat with sweet pea.
seven days on and:.
thanks :-)
Mum is no longer shunning my family, but my brother and wife are sticking to the extreme shunning so far...
their loss...
I think it is from August 24 1969 in the Arizona Republic
here is the text of the letter:.
february 2, 2014. .
your brothers,.
I see smart elders asking their wives to take attendance.
smart wives will delegate to their kids - wouldn't be surprised to see preprinted lists of group publishers and kids making ticks and crosses - great way to get them 'involved'