Posts by Effervescent

And that a better education can be found in their literature- which is the most circular reasoning I've ever seen in my life. "We know everything because we say so!"

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Who is the most balanced poster on JWD?

by JH in

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not just looks, or intelligence, but the perfect package..... .

male and female, the one who seems the most balanced and mature.

a combination of looks, good threads, intelligence, and wisdom also.

Effervescent

I'm a particular fan of Jgnat- I can really admire a smart independent woman who is also very modest about herself. A great combination.

There are a lot of posters here though, who can hold a conversation about even the most emotionally charged topics and not have to resort to flaming or the "You only think that way because you're stupid" tactic. I love em all!

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The warnings were TRUE

by unique1 in

you know all the myspace.com warnings that were on here about elders on a witch hunt searching for active jw's blogs and using them against them?

well the elders didn't search but an old aquaintenance did.

she was disfellowshipped for her blogs concerning all the casual sex she was having.

Effervescent

How completely malicious of them to show this stuff to your parents.... but typical. I think they thrive on pouring salt into wounds.

I'm completely convinced that more often then not Elders are overgrown children. The bullying kind.

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Has anyone here asked you for personal information?

by MsMcDucket in

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if so, how do you handle it?

i mean, do you think it's safe to give out your name and address?

Effervescent

I just learned a very valuable lesson about this- thankfully all it involved was blocking a user on my 360 site.

There's some really weird people out there who don't take no for an answer and/or have an agenda you probably don't want to be a part of. I've learned it's best to give out as little info as possible, and only to those you implicity trust.

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What is the Minimum age for Disfellowshipping ?

by Clam in

i read a thread posted by gill which gives an account of an 8 year old being baptised.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/107441/1.ashx.

does anyone know what the society considers to be the minimum age at which a witness can be disfellowshipped?

Effervescent

no...the bible clearly states that disfellowshipping is a loving practice

Oh yeah, my bad... I forgot!

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What is the Minimum age for Disfellowshipping ?

by Clam in

i read a thread posted by gill which gives an account of an 8 year old being baptised.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/107441/1.ashx.

does anyone know what the society considers to be the minimum age at which a witness can be disfellowshipped?

Effervescent

OMG- the thought of a very young person getting DFd is just horrifying. Could you imagine the experience of them getting shunned by everyone they know? Other than school, all social ties except for in the home enviornment would be cut off. And that's assuming they aren't home schooled!

That's just barbaric.

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my family wants me to talk to the elders...

by Calliope in

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sigh... my parents want me to go to the elders 'cause my husband and i have seperated.

they are astonished that i haven't told them yet.

"what happened to you?

Effervescent

i know, i know... i'm a g'damn chicken.

No, it's not that at all... it's just that there are no easy answers for you. It's so easy for someone to say "Just tell them to take a flying leap" when they're not the one who might loose the one's dearest to them.

If it were me, I might be inclined to let them continue in their blissful ignorance about what is really going on. Hint that you are in contact with the elders, but don't give any details because you are just 'too upset to talk about it'. Duck and cover. This might satisfy them that you're taking their admonition, but then you won't have to lie (much) to them.

I've played this game with my family for years... they finally seem to understand that they're better off not knowing the details of my life.

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...but Jesus said the truth would divide families!!!!

by ithinkisee in

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what is that scripture?.

what is your response to the claim that the truth would divide families?.

Effervescent

This doesn't prove anything to me about them having the "Truth". It's silly that they use this as some sort of self-fulfilling prophesy about themselves.

What I believe Jesus is telling his disciples here is that you have to stand up for what you believe to be truth, that you may even have to stand up against your own flesh and blood. He's saying that to stand up for truth is not going to be easy, there may be persecution... and that - as one translation so aply puts it-vs. 36: "Well-meaning family members can be your worst enemies". (Message Bible)

Sound familiar? Although they like to twist this scripture to mean they are in the right... they are the ones persecuting their family members for what they stand for. They are the ones Jesus warns about.

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The Better Days...

by Blueblades in

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my mom used to cut chicken, chop eggs and spread mayo on the same cuting board with the same knife and no bleach, but we didn't get food poisoning.

my mom used to defrost hamburger on the counter and i used to eat a bite raw sometimes, too.

our school sandwiches were wrapped in wax paper, in a brown paper bag, not in ice pack coolers, but i can't remember anybody getting e.coli.. almost all of us would have rather gone swimming in the lake instead of a pristine pool ( talk about boring ), no beach closures then.. the term cell phone would have conjured up a phone in a jail cell, and a pager was the school pa. system.

Effervescent

I'm not quite 30, and I can still quite relate to your post.

In fact, it's funny, my daughter was just listening to me wide-eyed the other day, when I was telling her that when I was her age, if I got in trouble at school, they could take me to the principal for a swat or three. Now when kids start arguing and fighting, the teachers are telling them to use their "I Messages". What the heck? That was a new one on me. I guess it's better than "meeting out front after school" like they did in my day.

Now a lot of schools have McDonalds and Taco Bell instead of Hamburger Suprise and Tator Tots. I dunno... I think Tator Tots build character.

My Kindergartener knows how to run a computer, I didn't touch a computer until Junior High when computer class was a line of Commodore 64's. Remember Logo?

Yep... the good ole days!