Effervescent

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  Witness Paranoia, and former Witness Paranoia

  by free2beme in

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  when i was a witness, i once had a elder tell me that he was positive the fbi was tracking witness activity.

  even saying that he would not fill out anything that stated his religion on official, or even unofficial documents that were not from the society, as he felt this was a tool to track witnesses.

  i remember once in a talk, it was mentioned that witnesses are not free from government tracking and that we should expect this.

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  Effervescent

  I think most obvious paranoia I saw had to do with the fear of Apostates in the midst. I think every time someone was DFd and it wasn't abundantly clear what for, everyone went home and took a shower just in case some apostate cooties rubbed off on them. I can remember seeing people in the store who were labeled Apostate when I was small, and my parents talking in panicked hushed tones about their plan of escape out of the building.

  Crazy crazy

  There also seemed to be a strong undercurrent of the feeling that we were only a day or so away from holding hidden meetings and having our toenails ripped out to confess our beliefs. That one was especially great to impress on young children...
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  What's the dubs' most ridiculous teaching?

  by ozziepost in

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  ok, i promised!

  so's not to take the other thread off topic, let's start on this here.. so: what's the dubs' most ridiculous teaching?.

  i'll start.the ships of kittim.. .

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  That school janitors and carpet cleaners (Elders) are somehow automatically qualified to dispense psychological counseling.

  I vote for this one!
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  Who didn't get picked in any of the "most hot" lists?

  by MsMcDucket in

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  i will tell you why i think that you didn't get picked later.

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  My sexy hubby thinks I'm hot... and that's all that matters (and he wears a uniform to work! hubba hubba!)

  We just need to start a "Hottest lurkers on JWD" thread... I might have a chance at that one!
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  What's the dubs' most ridiculous teaching?

  by ozziepost in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ok, i promised!

  so's not to take the other thread off topic, let's start on this here.. so: what's the dubs' most ridiculous teaching?.

  i'll start.the ships of kittim.. .

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  That going to college makes you catch promiscuity and alcoholism.

  And that a better education can be found in their literature- which is the most circular reasoning I've ever seen in my life. "We know everything because we say so!"
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  Who is the most balanced poster on JWD?

  by JH in

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  not just looks, or intelligence, but the perfect package..... .

  male and female, the one who seems the most balanced and mature.

  a combination of looks, good threads, intelligence, and wisdom also.

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  Effervescent

  I'm a particular fan of Jgnat- I can really admire a smart independent woman who is also very modest about herself. A great combination.

  There are a lot of posters here though, who can hold a conversation about even the most emotionally charged topics and not have to resort to flaming or the "You only think that way because you're stupid" tactic. I love em all!
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  The warnings were TRUE

  by unique1 in

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  2. experiences

  you know all the myspace.com warnings that were on here about elders on a witch hunt searching for active jw's blogs and using them against them?

  well the elders didn't search but an old aquaintenance did.

  she was disfellowshipped for her blogs concerning all the casual sex she was having.

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  How completely malicious of them to show this stuff to your parents.... but typical. I think they thrive on pouring salt into wounds.

  I'm completely convinced that more often then not Elders are overgrown children. The bullying kind.
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  Has anyone here asked you for personal information?

  by MsMcDucket in

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  if so, how do you handle it?

  i mean, do you think it's safe to give out your name and address?

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  I just learned a very valuable lesson about this- thankfully all it involved was blocking a user on my 360 site.

  There's some really weird people out there who don't take no for an answer and/or have an agenda you probably don't want to be a part of. I've learned it's best to give out as little info as possible, and only to those you implicity trust.
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  What is the Minimum age for Disfellowshipping ?

  by Clam in

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  i read a thread posted by gill which gives an account of an 8 year old being baptised.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/107441/1.ashx.

  does anyone know what the society considers to be the minimum age at which a witness can be disfellowshipped?

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  Effervescent

  no...the bible clearly states that disfellowshipping is a loving practice

  Oh yeah, my bad... I forgot!
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  What is the Minimum age for Disfellowshipping ?

  by Clam in

  1. watchtower
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  i read a thread posted by gill which gives an account of an 8 year old being baptised.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/107441/1.ashx.

  does anyone know what the society considers to be the minimum age at which a witness can be disfellowshipped?

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  OMG- the thought of a very young person getting DFd is just horrifying. Could you imagine the experience of them getting shunned by everyone they know? Other than school, all social ties except for in the home enviornment would be cut off. And that's assuming they aren't home schooled!

  That's just barbaric.
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  my family wants me to talk to the elders...

  by Calliope in

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  sigh... my parents want me to go to the elders 'cause my husband and i have seperated.

  they are astonished that i haven't told them yet.

  "what happened to you?

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  Effervescent

  i know, i know... i'm a g'damn chicken.

  No, it's not that at all... it's just that there are no easy answers for you. It's so easy for someone to say "Just tell them to take a flying leap" when they're not the one who might loose the one's dearest to them.

  If it were me, I might be inclined to let them continue in their blissful ignorance about what is really going on. Hint that you are in contact with the elders, but don't give any details because you are just 'too upset to talk about it'. Duck and cover. This might satisfy them that you're taking their admonition, but then you won't have to lie (much) to them.

  I've played this game with my family for years... they finally seem to understand that they're better off not knowing the details of my life.