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  Are "Apostates" jumping the gun with their info on the WT to make a case?

  by booker-t in

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  2. bible

  i take some of the things apostates say with a "grain of salt" because many times i think they embellish the truth to make the wt look bad to make their case.

  for example i have for years heard that the wt uses "satanic" images in their artwork but i have yet to see any proof of these accusations.

  i have heard that jw's no longer practice "disfellowshipping" but my teenage niece was recently "disfellowshipped".

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  I've never taken much stock in the satanic images, masonic connections, etc.

  My personal convictions are more simple. Basically my belief is that if they have lied about their history and misquoted secular authorities, I have no reason to put faith in them. In their own publications it says, "A religion that teaches lies cannot be true."

  Regarding embellishments by apostates, I would say it definitely happens.

  However, there are some things where both sides may be right. For instance, they do not disfellowship. They instead say "so-and-so is no longer one of JWs". This has been documented at elder's schools and in elder letters to the congregations.

  However, the rest of the congregation - and even most elders - might say (out of habit) that the person was "disfellowshipped" when speaking informally after the announcement. In this case both sides are really correct, even though the terminology is technically different.

  My $.o2 cents

  ithinkisee
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  Is a sexually promiscuous life style linked to depression or insecurity?

  by free2beme in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i work in an environment at work that is a mix of adult ranging in age from 18-50. there are 300 plus people in the building, and that means you get a lot of soap operas happening from people sleeping with other people's girlfriends, boyfriends and even people cheating on their spouses with people they work with.

  among the bunch is a large group of people who spend a lot of time passing themselves around, and sampling many sexual partners.

  of the people who i know, i have often found that many do not seem as happy as one might think.

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  I worked in a similar environment for 5 years and saw the same thing. It's weird how a whole sub-culture thrives in these places.

  I saw people cheat on their spouses many times. The amount of times I was approached by single and married women was insane. (I don't mean that as a compliment to myself either ...) There were definitely people that slept their way up the corporate ladder - and in some ways I actually didn't blame them.

  I saw this happen over and over again. A guy and girl (who had wives/husbands) would take the afternoon off and go get a hotel room. A VP of marketing who was in his early-40's and tired of his marriage hired only super hot ex-models and college interns as his staff.

  I think most people in Dilbert-styled jobs in large office complexes often treat it like high school with pay. I saw many of them were emotionally immature, sad, and desperate.

  But I must say not ALL were that way, and in fact the people I was close with were (mostly) pretty stable and happy.

  My direct supervisor was only about 4 years older than me and was married for 10 years and worked with his wife at the same company. His example had a large part to do with my looking at my own marriage and questioning the whole JW-method of marriage because he would always say to his wife how much he loved her and she did the same. They ate lunch together almost every day. I thought to myself "Me and my wife don't do that ... and we're JWs and supposed to be the only ones that have strong marriages."

  Cognitive dissonance at work.

  -ithinkisee
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  Carbon dating and the Watchtower

  by Gill in

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  ithinkisee

  That is a good article mentioned. The problem I see is that they consistently use examples that are 20-30-40 years old and disregard the modern progress in carbon dating. I don't have time for specifics right now but I'll try to post more over the weekend. -ithinkisee
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  I'm Sorry Jgnat!!!

  by RichieRich in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ok, so i got some new ink yesterday.

  whoa whoa whoa now.

  i'm not jumping in to this thing head first, this had been planned since day one.

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  ithinkisee

  Hey dude ... I can already tell your job during college is going to be bodyguard at a club.
  
  Sweet ... you'll see lots of boobies.
  
  -ithinkisee
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  Absolute Proof That Life is Unfair (Asia Carrera)

  by metatron in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ok, let's create a person with the iq of a genius - who belongs to mensa, double majored on a full scholarship to rutgers university,.

  plays concert piano, and is really good in math.. now, add the fact that is she is alarming attractive....( ok, there was some surgery involved).

  add the fact that she can actually climax ( no faking) with ease.

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  ithinkisee

  I also think the same thing about someone like Keith Richards who has lived the craziest life and abused his body in every way possible yet somehow seems to keep ticking along.
  
  Weird ...
  
  -ithinkisee
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  PORNOGRAPHY AMONG JWS

  by badboy in

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  2. friends

  were there any cases among jws?

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  JW men look at it just as much as non-JWs, and probably moreso. (I have no numbers to back it up) Non-JWs just accept it for what it is and realize it is fantasy. JWs think it is real life in "the world" and they are missing out on it.
  
  -ithinkisee
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  Fugitive Mormon leader's reign of fear ended

  by katiekitten in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,1860765,00.html .

  to summarise a mormon group broke away from the main church when they gave up polygamy, and about 10 000 of them followed this man who took over leadership from his father.

  the followers were allowed no tv, newspapers or outside influences, children were taught the leader was divinely oerdained and infallible and young girls were 'shared out' sexually between him and his buddies leaders.

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  ::::Funny how these sects so heavily favour mens right to f**k everyone and everything,
  ::::and manage to treat women worse than cooking implements. WHY, HOW do they put up with it???
  
  
  Ahhh ... I miss the good ole days.
  
  Just kidding. Actually thanks for the update. I remember when there was a big Primetime special or something on this dude and they were trying to track his sorry ass down.
  
  -ithinkisee
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  Have You Been Divorced, Or Getting A Divorce?

  by Outaservice in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  divorce is much more common in the jehovah's witness community than they would like to admit.

  probably more so than the population in general in my opinion.. if you have been divorced, do you think that the watchtower society contributed to the divorce, or caused it, or is it just possible you married some jerk or abuser and divorce would have occured no matter what religion you were, or even if you had no religion?.

  possibly you got married way too young as the end was coming and there is no marriage in the resurrection if you died.

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  I agree with Dansk. So many people on here want to see their JW-revenge taken out via other people on this board and I am not sure this is wise.
  
  Time and time again I have seen people write big long letters about their reasons for leaving the JWs and then they send it to all their friends after everyone on this board says, "Yeah! That's great. You really stuck it to them there! Lets see how they deal with THAT!"
  
  Yet I have rarely (if ever) seen any of those letters actually DO any good. They just don't work.
  
  They're great for sitting around this forum and whipping ourselves up into a frenzy, but they just don't work - except to make our JW friend's shields go up and then they cut us off.
  
  Anyways, yeah. There's a lot of great stuff on the web that is anti-JW. But carefull research what has worked over and over again. Don't listen to a prominent "apostate" just because they are "apostate". It's really easy to sound authoritative and knowledgeable and wise when your only communication with each other is this board and you can proof what you say before you send it out there into cyberspace.
  
  Sorry it didn't work for you SSPO.
  
  -ithinkisee
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  watchtower press release

  by candidlynuts in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  this irks me.. a press release means the watchtower sent it to the paper right?.

  it not only pushes child baptism it makes a celebrity of them.. http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/cu0608/s00241.htm.

  youths who are bucking the trend.

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  ithinkisee

  The Society sends each District Convention Committee a collection of generic press releases where they can plug in local names and experiences.
  
  I had a close relationship with a DC Chairman and published the Press Releases with comments from last year:
  
  Convention Press Releases - From The WTS ...
  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/9/92116/1.ashx
  
  -dm
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  Anyone live in Tri-Cities, WA?

  by drwtsn32 in

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  2. friends

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  just for kicks i'm curious if anyone lives in the tri-cities.

  i live in kennewick and used to attend the south kennewick and riverside congregations.

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  ithinkisee

  Here are people that I remember from Kennewick:
  
  Rick Fox
  Les Conrad
  Mike Saylor, Marie Saylor, Darwin Saylor
  Mac Sheperd
  Mike Guzman
  Ernie Guzman
  Paula Ronning
  Luke Palmer
  Jeremiah (forget last name)
  Gus Brown
  Keith Larson
  Kathy Linville (and husband and kids)
  
  There were tons of others too but it has been awhile ...
  
  Anyone know any of these people? Have updates?
  
  -ithinkisee