Posts by rebel8

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Doctors and surgeons say no to blood transfusions

by Mr Negative in

my mum recently told me that even surgeons won't have blood transfusions, but the common people don't get told this.

i have also seen or heard others say that a bunch of doctors/health officials/surgeons were asked, at some point, if they would accept a blood transfusion and they all said no.

is this true?

rebel8

Mr. Earnshaw was featured as the doctor on the front of one of the Awake magazines in 2000...

also asked if Mr. Earnshaw was a Jehovah's Witness and if he knew that his photo and quote was used by the Watchtower Society and he replied:

"Mr Earnshaw has read your email and would note:

“......No

omg. It's so nasty to do that, I'm sorry, maybe it's legal but it's no better than tabloid journalism.

But this is an old trick for wts.

I can understand including a quote from someone (not a misquote or taken out of context), but I can't understand putting someone's picture on the cover of your magazine and using him as a sort of endorsement of a dangerous doctrine.

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Meet The Mormons, in Theaters now

by designs in

the lds church has a slick new documentary out now- meet the mormons.

http://meethtemormons.com huffington post etc... huffington post described it as slick, light on doctrine, and presenting a public face that you wouldn't find if you walked into a typical lds church.. i wonder how far behind the new jw.org think tank guys are on developing their own film for theater release.. .

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rebel8

There was a jw infomercial playing on TV a few years ago.

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Let's All Volunteer for the Warwick Project!!!

by pronomono in

ok, not really.. but the rbc is spamming my email trying to get my volunteer information.

it all seems kind of hokey.

it comes from some unofficial gmail account that i've never seen and telling me to go to a generic form website to enter in my personal information.

rebel8

LOL a new title, "RBC Survey Overseer". That is one of the stupidest things I've heard out of their mouths all week. omg.

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University Application Personal Statement dilemma - Should I mention my jw past?

by will-be-apostate in

jw
friends

i am applying to chemical engineering course in the uk through ucas (a lot of things changed since i've posted last time).. i have a lot of skills i developed while regular pioneering, like public speaking skills, ability to reason (even if it's bs), presentational skills etc.. i feel it would boost my personal statement a lot, but i'm also afraid they would say "this guy beleives in god, and loves science, he must be creationist.

away with him".. how could i mention that i gave interviews front of thousands of people and did voluntary work in my hometown without giving a bad impression?.

i don't want to go into details and start explaining myself that "however i don't beleive in god", or something like that.

rebel8

I was just talking to a professor who interviews applicants to a science-based program. He is just astonished that people mention religion in their application for the reasons mentioned in the OP.

Personally...I would not mention it in a written application. If you must explain a job gap or something like that, talk about volunteering for an international organization that provided training and opportunities to practice public speaking. They'll think you mean Toastmasters. lol.

Then during the interview, if their questions would make you seem awkward and evasive if you don't answer directly, say something like, "I was raised in a fundamentalist religion that focuses on public speaking as a major part of its ministry. As a scientific thinker, I did not believe the doctrine even then. When I was old enough to choose for myself, I left that group."

I don't see why you'd have to name what religion.

Don't linger on it too long--just provide a short explanation and then don't ruminate on it. Otherwise it's going to seem more important than it is.

Good luck.

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Let's All Volunteer for the Warwick Project!!!

by pronomono in

ok, not really.. but the rbc is spamming my email trying to get my volunteer information.

it all seems kind of hokey.

it comes from some unofficial gmail account that i've never seen and telling me to go to a generic form website to enter in my personal information.

rebel8

I think [email protected] wants to sign up for the Scientology newsletter.

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"Ebola is not spread through the air" -- CDC. Yeah, right!

by FatFreek 2005 in

somehow, i don't have a warm fuzzy feeling when i keep hearing from the center of disease control, "ebola is not spread through the air ...".

ever sneezed?

the famous myth busters had a revealing show on the power of the sneeze anecdotally it has a velocity of some 35 miles per hour and travels a distance of some 30 feet.. ever traveled in the close confines of an air liner?

rebel8

It's interesting there was so little hoopla in the US about the many outbreaks over the last 40 years until the recent one that infected Americans. Not even when there was a movie based on it. Interesting.

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Doctors and surgeons say no to blood transfusions

by Mr Negative in

my mum recently told me that even surgeons won't have blood transfusions, but the common people don't get told this.

i have also seen or heard others say that a bunch of doctors/health officials/surgeons were asked, at some point, if they would accept a blood transfusion and they all said no.

is this true?

rebel8

Interestingly it should not matter one single iota whether a blood transfusion is dangerous or totally safe. That is NOT the given reason for the ban on transfusions.

Absolutely correct. I think we need to keep responding to jws with this line of reasoning. wts is using these fairy tales only because it lacks confidence that its own adherents will abide by it for doctrinal reasons alone.

This has a subtle conspiracy theory inside it too--"Doctors themselves don't want blood, but they want to get us to take it." I had a great deal of experience with that and I was repeatedly told Satan is getting doctors to get us to take blood unnecessarily, just to threaten our chance for everlasting life.

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At what point will there be more ex-JWs than active JWs?

by NewYork44M in

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friends

given the flow out of the organization and the inability to find new recruits, there should be a tipping point where the ex's out number the actives.

has there been any discussion related to this topic?.

because many within the organization are not true believers and are in various stages of exit this calculation is some what complicated.

rebel8

oranges ≠ apples

Overall small decrease rate ≠ lack of massive hemorrhage of jws who were active prior to the failed 1975 prophecy

End of the world prophecies are typically a very effective recruitment technique--that's why they're used in the first place, and then the failure of the prophecy is covered by revisionist tactics.

http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/statistics.php

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"Ebola is not spread through the air" -- CDC. Yeah, right!

by FatFreek 2005 in

somehow, i don't have a warm fuzzy feeling when i keep hearing from the center of disease control, "ebola is not spread through the air ...".

ever sneezed?

the famous myth busters had a revealing show on the power of the sneeze anecdotally it has a velocity of some 35 miles per hour and travels a distance of some 30 feet.. ever traveled in the close confines of an air liner?

rebel8

Well I guess I'll chime in, as the resident skeptic.

Every time there is a new disease in the news, people think it's airborne and that's being covered up in a conspiracy. Happened with HIV too.

Airborne is not the same as droplets. That means it's carried on dust in the air and you don't even have to be near an infected person to get it. If a disease is truly airborne, it spreads quickly. Ebola has been identified for about 40 years.

And then there's droplets, which is not the same thing as airborne. You need to be near a person who coughs or sneezes a droplet of infected liquid. This is how TB is spread, for example. CDC isn't hiding the fact that droplet contamination can occur on surfaces; in fact, they are publicizing it.

Is it possible an organism could evolve to be airborne? Possible, perhaps, but that hasn't happened. Many diseases have been around a lot longer and they haven't, either.

It is terrible that this disease has such a high mortality rate, but it's great that it's not airborne.

In all my years of working in healthcare, whenever a healthcare worker has gotten a non-airborne infection from a patient, there was a break in universal precautions, or equipment failure.

This stuff is not unknown--we do know a lot about viruses.

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Preterism

by Chris Tann in

when i started to do my research concerning ttatt, i started to see the scriptures in a different light.

one thing i noticed is that when the epistles talk about the last days, christs presence, the ressurection to heaven; the writers were speaking specifically of their time, not some two thousand years later.

even when jesus speaks of his presence and the kingdom being established, he was talking to his disciples of that time and what they were soon to expect.

rebel8

Many of us were where you're at, xian. My advice is dedicate yourself to accepting the truth, no matter how uncomfortable it may be at first. Truth will set you free.

The Bible does read as accurate historic information, not fanciful fiction.

My goodness. Have you researched that? There's lots of inaccurate historical info in the Bible.

There is evidence to support certain prophecies that were fulfilled.

What evidence do you have that the Bible had a higher accuracy rate than anyone else who guessed about the future using vague predictions?

What other religious book ,besides the Koran, has had such a life changing effect on humanity for thousands and thousands of years?

We were taught that ethnocentric belief. The answer is several. But I'm not sure how relevant that is to its truthiness. Let's test that logic?

What other website, besides Facebook, has had such a life changing effect on humanity? Therefore what it says is true.

What other drink, besides water, has had such a life changing effect on humanity? Therefore it's holy.

And then there's the narrow, cramped path.