Posts by rebel8

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Jehovah told to Moses: "....kill every woman who has had sexual relations with a man"

by opusdei1972 in

in numbers 31 we read the following:.

jehovah then told moses:2 take vengeance for the israelites on the midianites.

afterward you will be gathered to your people.3 so moses spoke to the people, saying: equip men from among you for battle against midian and to execute jehovahs vengeance on midian.4 you should send 1,000 of each tribe of all the tribes of israel into the army............ 7 they waged war against midian, just as jehovah had commanded moses, and they killed every male.8 along with the others slain, they killed the kings of midian, namely, evi, rekem, zur, hur, and reba, the five kings of midian.

rebel8

I just experienced sudden emotional changes.

Before reading this thread-meh, a normal rainy evening.

Then-
if a woman is relaxed during intercourse and has good lubrication and she or her partner has tried to stretch the hymen with fingers, then it likely won't break. So, you can't tell if someone is a virgin if they have a hymen.

ewwwwomgwthwho"tries"tostretchahymen

Then-
Business idea : Working out of a van. "Mobile Hymen stretching "

omgroflewww

Then-
laser treatments, stretch limousine

omgstopstopstop

PS-Millie, I think what's being said is the fact that the scripture can only be reasoned upon by putting it into its historical context (violence, misogyny, slavery) indicates this publication is not the product of a loving god. A loving god wouldn't wait for Iron Age humans to catch up to his perfect ethics and lovingkindness. S/he would take the lead by commanding them to do the right thing and teaching them why. Instead s/he ordered them into battle, mass murder, abuse, rape, slavery, and by his/her own words, "humiliation".

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Hard time coping with shunning

by bsand20 in

jw
friends

it's almost 1am and i can't sleep...again.

i hate to think the organization is still taking my sleep from me 16 years later but i can't help it.

i run a page on social media for ex jw support and advice and i'm usually there helping others but it definitely takes a toll on me when i'm having to argue and disprove jws that troll my page.

rebel8

You mentioned "it's making you not sleep", etc. The truth is, you will never be able to control the behavior of others, so if you're reliant on them for your well being, you're in trouble. Right?

All you can (try to) control is your reaction to it. "The devil's in the details" rings true here. It's the (try to) that's the hard part. But it is possible!

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"We Love You All Very Much"

by Apognophos in

i'm not sure if this has been discussed before.

you guys might recall that when the 2013 yearbook came out, the letter from the governing body ended a bit unusually:.

we love you all very much.

rebel8

Any time they say the gb thinks something jointly as a group makes me think of the Borg. The gb members are individuals, not clones. Or are they?

And then, what's this with, "We love you all"? How is that possible? You can't love someone you never met or don't even know exists. Creepy, deity-like.

The GB signing bibles

WHAT?!!!1!

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"Active Topics" button opens a wml file

by rebel8 in

when i press the "active topics" button this morning, it tries to open a .wml file instead of taking me to active topics.. oh, the humanity!.

rebel8

I restarted and it's not happening at the moment. Weird.

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According to JWs' application of Acts 15:29, shouldn't they also be refusing medical examinations by gynecologists?

by Island Man in

watchtower uses the following twisted logic to equate receiving a blood transfusion, with feeding on blood:.

feeding is sometimes done by injecting nutrients intravenously.. blood transfusions are carried out by injecting blood intravenously.. therefore the intravenous injecting of blood can be equated with feeding intravenously.. hence, true christians refuse blood transfusions in order to obey the biblical command to "abstain from blood".. now notice how the same kind of twisted logic leads to the equating of an invasive examination by a gynecologist, with sexual intercourse:.

sexual intercourse is often done by inserting the penis into the vagina.. certain invasive examinations by a gynecologist is done by inserting an instrument into the vagina.. therefore such invasive gynecological examinations can be equated with sexual intercourse.. hence, true christians refuse such gynecological examinations that are performed by someone to whom they're not married, in order to obey the biblical command to "abstain from fornication".. it's the same kind of twisted reasoning, isn't it?

rebel8

Ok, the gyn analogies are creeping me out. I will need to bleach that out of my brain before my next gyn appointment.

But this is a good point. The logic can be applied to almost anything, really.

Pagan practices are sometimes done with windchimes.
Windchimes are sometimes used to make music.
Therefore music can be equated with Paganism.
Hence, true christians don't listen to music.

Or even simpler:

Fornication is sometimes done in automobiles.
Therefore, riding in automobiles can be equated with fornication.
Hence, true christians do not use automobiles in order to obey the biblical command to "flee from fornication".

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Where was the dead body of Jesus? Did the disciples disappear it?

by opusdei1972 in

i am currently an skeptic, but i have to admit that i can't assure that all the stuff of early christianity was false.. for instance, we know that the genuine letters of paul were written before the destruction of jerusalem.

so, paul affirmed that jesus resurrected, though he was not there when it supposedly happened.

but, if jesus did not resurrect, why didn't the jews expose this falsehood?.

rebel8

If there was a Jesus, he may have pretended to be dead and had his disciples let him out of the tomb.

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Sleep Aid Recommendations

by LV101 in

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friends

in addition to the recent thread, "how to shut your mind down .

.

" (which is excellent) but there was another thread about the same time i'm searching for and unable to locate.

rebel8

chamomile tea, hibiscus tea, establishing a wind-down ritual that you do exactly the same way every night at the same time, no stimulating stuff a few hours before bedtime, no light or noise in the bedroom, meditation, lavendar on your pillow

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"Active Topics" button opens a wml file

by rebel8 in

when i press the "active topics" button this morning, it tries to open a .wml file instead of taking me to active topics.. oh, the humanity!.

rebel8

When I press the "Active Topics" button this morning, it tries to open a .wml file instead of taking me to active topics.

Oh, the humanity!

Brazil court: Blood refusal for child is not murder

by rebel8 in

couldn't find this one posted here.. so the highlights (lowlights?

) are:.

in 1993, a 13 yr old girl with leukemia died due to her parents refusal of blood.the physician consented to the parents' wishes.the government attempted to prosecute them for murder.in 2010 the court ruled they should stand trial for murder.now that decision has essentially been overturned.the doctor violated medical ethics regulations when he followed the parents' wishes.the girl's dad is said to be a military reservist.her name was juliana bonfim da silva, and she never had the chance to live a full life..

rebel8

Couldn't find this one posted here.

So the highlights (lowlights?) are:

In 1993, a 13 yr old girl with leukemia died due to her parents refusal of blood.
The physician consented to the parents' wishes.
The government attempted to prosecute them for murder.
In 2010 the court ruled they should stand trial for murder.
Now that decision has essentially been overturned.
The doctor violated medical ethics regulations when he followed the parents' wishes.
The girl's dad is said to be a military reservist. I guess he compartmentalizes his adherence to doctrines about bloodguilt.

Her name was Juliana Bonfim da Silva, and she never had the chance to live a full life.

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Watchtower November 2014: Witnesses can't donate blood

by opusdei1972 in

let us read a recent watchtower publication:.

many medical professionals and other advocates of blood transfusion appeal to people to donate blood in hopes of saving lives.

however, jehovahs holy people acknowledge that the creator has the right to say how blood is to be treated.

rebel8

sir82, interesting. The statements made by both AWJRB and the Borg grossly understate the amount of donated blood used by hemophiliacs.