what do you think of this idea, has it been done?
i was thinking that if i did decide to da myself, one fun way to do it might be to place a public notice in a regional paper.
something not libelous(unfortunately), just saying that i no longer wanted to be know as one of jws because i could not reconcile the discrepancies/divide between jws organization and the bible.
I like the idea Meat Pie, I didn't think of that when I left. I think now if I were to do that, I might pay for a 4x4 commercial ad, maybe even put in pictures, etc.
Borgfree
"You can complain because roses have thorns, or you can rejoice because thorns have roses." -Ziggy
i'm really into politics and current events.
i'm more of the libertarian type.
i voted bush the last election, clinton before.
I am a lot like the Rev. I consider myself somewhere to the right of Rush Limbaugh.
A couple of years after leaving the WT I registered as a Republican. I voted for Alan Keyes in the primary but he did not get past that. I felt like GW was sort of forced on us as a candidate, so in resentment, I voted Libertarian.
I consider myself more of an independant now but will not vote for anyone liberal.
Borgfree
"You can complain because roses have thorns, or you can rejoice because thorns have roses." -Ziggy
for some reason on my way to the meeting last night i was thinking what if there was a reasoning book for talking with jws.
in particular a section with rebuttals for common jw thinking.
jesus disciple's made false predictions too.. jehovah has always used an organization.. the light keeps getting brighter.. who else is doing the work that we are?.
Just a little addition to my last post.
The teaching that Jesus IS God is vital to a Christian. (a follower of Christ) It is one of the most important differences in the groups claiming to be Christian and a true Christian.
The groups claiming to be Christian, like the Jehovah's Witnesses, believe that Jesus was just a man, in the flesh. Some believe he was a prophet, but, still, just a man.
Those groups believing that Jesus was JUST a man are admitting that they follow a man or men, something that the bible continually warns us NOT to do.
A Christian, believing that Jesus IS God, is of course, following GOD.
Borgfree
"You can complain because roses have thorns, or you can rejoice because thorns have roses." -Ziggy
for some reason on my way to the meeting last night i was thinking what if there was a reasoning book for talking with jws.
in particular a section with rebuttals for common jw thinking.
jesus disciple's made false predictions too.. jehovah has always used an organization.. the light keeps getting brighter.. who else is doing the work that we are?.
Hmmm, Mormans, Catholics, Baptist, Methodist, Scientologists, need I continue?
Have to disagree with you here, NameWithheld. Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, teach that Jesus IS God. I am not sure about Scientologists.
Mormons, Seventh Day Adventists, and a lot of other groups do not teach that Jesus is God, just like the JWs.
Borgfree
"You can complain because roses have thorns, or you can rejoice because thorns have roses." -Ziggy
i've been to visit your site several times.
i thought it was for witnesses.
i found something i wasn't necessarily looking for though.
South,
I don't see very many, of the approximately 5000 members, complaining about how bad they have it SINCE they left the WT. I think mostly we complain about how much of our lives we wasted in a God dishonoring, lying, deceptive CULT.
Borgfree
"You can complain because roses have thorns, or you can rejoice because thorns have roses." -Ziggy
i have dsl with verizon but their isp side (third party) email accounting and third party billing sucks, having charged me for $400 for some glitch in their system a year ago (totally not my fault) and then they shut me down for not paying it.
their system has too many bureaucrats and nothing seems to happen.
what do you guys find to be a good isp?
I have Roadrunner. It is a cable service provided by Time Warner Cable. I like it a lot.
Borgfree
"You can complain because roses have thorns, or you can rejoice because thorns have roses." -Ziggy
i'm sure there has already been a thread started to pose this question.
however, i'm curious as to a specific aspect of this thought.
there have been various threads started inquiring about specific miracles performed by god.
Hi Sunstarr,
A God, who could create the universe, would of course, be far beyond our ability to identify with and beyond our understanding.
I try sometimes to get some idea of the reasons for things by trying to imagine I could create small robots, (we could do that) then program the robots to be a certain way, but, giving them the ability to decide many things for themselves.
I might have a definite direction I want the robot population to go, but some of the robots rebel; they somehow acquire the ability to change their programming and go in an entirely different direction than I had hoped.
We could, of course, put sensors into these robots to imitate feeling etc. The robots could develop a form of love for fellow robots. If I decided, as their “creator”, to deactivate one of the rebel robots I would know exactly how to do it. I would know the entire make-up of the robot and how to deactivate it without causing what might be considered cruelty by the other robots.
The other robots would not have my knowledge of that, or, my knowledge of computers, electronics, and a vast amount of information, they would no doubt consider me cruel. This scenario could go on for a very long time, but I think it helps in trying to understand some things.
In the real world though, the Almighty God, who would create the universe, would be far superior to us than the scenario of the robots and me.
Borgfree
"You can complain because roses have thorns, or you can rejoice because thorns have roses." -Ziggy
we had a post going recently about slave reparations in the united states.
it led to some pretty heated and interesting discusions from all sides.
at one point i pointed out that more people are enslaved today than at any time in history (twenty seven million).
Hyghlandyr,
It seems pretty obvious that all the noise about slavery in this country is only about MONEY. The shake-down artists like Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, etc. don't seem to care about the slavery in the world today, wonder why? maybe there is just not enough BIG MONEY in Sudan or maybe they know they will not be successful in shaking down the people in those other countries.
They know where the suckers are, in the good ole gullable USA.
Isn't the silence about slavery practiced today a little deafening?
But, I really think the silence speaks volumes.
Borgfree
"You can complain because roses have thorns, or you can rejoice because thorns have roses." -Ziggy
i was just listening to my new nicole c. mullen cd (she rocks!!
) and i had this thought...... i really enjoy christian rock music now, but i had never listened to it as a jw because i wasn't allowed.
so instead i listened to that every uplifting ac/dc, metalica, scorpions (still favorites of mine).. the society did release the "kingdom melodies" on tape though and everyone bought the complete set.....did anyone here ever really enjoy that music?
Didn"t they make some films called "Looney Tunes and Kingdom Melodies"?
"We cannot defend freedom abroad by deserting it at home." Edward R. Murrow
so, what do canadians have to be proud of?
1. smarties .
2. crispy crunch, coffee crisp .
Sorry Xander,
That was my attempt at humor.
Borgfree
"We cannot defend freedom abroad by deserting it at home." Edward R. Murrow
