Posts by slimboyfat

There are many good things about JWs, but it is hard to support this. I really wonder what average JWs think. I think it's the worst JW talk I ever heard.

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WT - Study Ed, October 2017 - The Truth Brings, “Not Peace, But a Sword”

by Sanchy in

jw
friends

another article analyzing how bad poor jw's have it when it comes to opposition from family.

few interesting quotes:.

parr 2:.

I guess JW elders would come down on the side that DFed people should not be on your friend list. Essentially it could be a judicial matter. The question is would they seek out the information, or be brazen enough to make an issue out of it.

The obvious solution, if JW elder policing of Facebook became widespread, would be for ordinary JWs to make their friend lists private.

In which case maybe especially officious elders might complain "I can't access the page to see who is on your friend list".

Surely that would never actually happen. But who knows.

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WT - Study Ed, October 2017 - The Truth Brings, “Not Peace, But a Sword”

by Sanchy in

jw
friends

another article analyzing how bad poor jw's have it when it comes to opposition from family.

few interesting quotes:.

parr 2:.

slimboyfat

I have never heard of anyone getting DFed for having friends on Facebook. Has anyone got any experience of that. I suspect it would have made a news story or something if it happened.

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WT - Study Ed, October 2017 - The Truth Brings, “Not Peace, But a Sword”

by Sanchy in

jw
friends

another article analyzing how bad poor jw's have it when it comes to opposition from family.

few interesting quotes:.

parr 2:.

slimboyfat

Has anyone ever faced reproof or JC for having a DFed relative in their Facebook list? It's sounds like this could happen. Crazy.

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If you think JW have a poor conversion/retention rate have a read of this.

by joe134cd in

these are quotes from the following article.

i think they are quite key.

all things considered i don't think the dubs are doing to bad after all.

slimboyfat

This is correct, only about 30% of Mormons worldwide are "active". And what they mean by active is not very active in comparison with a JW publisher who regularly attends meetings.

In all countries that include religion in the census a clear pattern emerges. Far fewer people identify themselves as Mormon than the church claims as members, whereas far more people identify as JW than the Yearbook claims as publishers.

Take Mexico for example.

Mormons claims 1.4 million members in Mexico, yet only 300,000 identify themselves as Mormon.

JWs on the other hand claim 800,000 publishers in Mexico, yet more than 1.5 million people identify themselves as JWs.

What's more, the number of Mormon congregations has been declining in Europe for years, whereas until now JW congregation numbers have increased or remained steady in most countries.

In Britian for example there are 1,613 JW congregations compared with only 333 Mormon congregations, down over 10% from a peak of 374 in 1999.

Other countries show greater Mormon decline.

In France there are 108 Mormon congregations, down from 128.

In Germany 166 down from 188.

In the Netherlands 33 down from 43.

In Italy 101 down from 133.

Figures taken from the pro Mormon website:

http://cumorah.com/index.php

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What are the chances of getting another Raymond Franz default from head office ?

by Chook in

all regimes get defectors and some are more vocal than others..

slimboyfat

Probably quite slim chances.

One of the most striking things about CofC is just how reluctant Raymond Franz was to leave the GB and the organisation. Despite all his doubts and differences with JW teaching and policy, he actually wanted to stay.

Sometimes I think Franz is misunderstood as having decided to leave JWs of his own accord over a "crisis of conscience" but that's not what his book actually says. He tried very hard to evade expulsion, but he apparently had some powerful enemies on the GB, and in the febrile post-1975 atmosphere they were determined to get rid of him.

It's an unusual set of circumstances that's probably unlikely to be repeated. If there are GB members with doubts or differences they are likely to stay where they are unless very strong (probably personal) motivations compel them otherwise.

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Brussels Central station was evacuated Tuesday amid reports of an explosion and at least one man shot who shouted "Allahu Akbar,"

by freemindfade in

it looks like these attacks in europe are going from weekly, to daily, it literally gives me chills to think about traveling to europe with my family.

that is very unfortunate.

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slimboyfat

I thought I'd been to this station but I mixed it up with Bruxelles Midi which is (confusingly - for me) Brussels South. I love train stations. Brussels South (like Brussels generally) is a bit run down and old fashioned. It has a low roof a bit like a cave, but it has its own character. In the last few years police with guns have been visible at all times. So I'm not surprised the man got shot pretty quickly.

Antwerp on the other hand is a beautiful station, maybe one of the best. Don't see so many police there. I wouldn't hesitate to visit anywhere in Europe. You're far more likely to get hurt crossing the road. So be careful in the traffic and forget about the extremists.

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HOUSE, M.D., Jehovah's Witnesses, and '75

by compound complex in

season 7, episode 18: "the dig".

house picks up "thirteen" -- dr. remy hadley -- upon her release from prison.

she asks him to take her to a certain location in order to take care of a personal matter.

slimboyfat

What happened in Scrubs, did the JW live or not?

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Who holds the Burden Of Proof?

by stuckinarut2 in

when we as former witnesses wake up and choose to leave the society, it is mainly because we value truth and honesty.. the society tries to make out that we are in the wrong.

that we have "left the truth".. but, who really holds the burden of proof?

do we (who leave) need to prove that the society is not the "truth", or does the society need to prove that it is the "truth".. thoughts?.

slimboyfat

I found that it goes one step further than that even. I was challenged by a JW who found out about my doubts. Not only should prove to him that JWs don't have the truth. But I was challenged to answer the question: if JWs don't have the truth, then who does? The implication seemed to be that, unless I could supply a completely convincing alternative total system of truth, then JWs remain "the truth" by default.

I think there are lots of good things about JWs and I am optimistic about reform. I also think that truth is relative to the perspective you are viewing it from.