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  The Real Reason why the WT predicted Armageddon in 1975

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am of the opinion that the wt doctrine is influenced more by external factors that it is by internal ones.

  one of the doctrines that has puzzled me for some time is the armageddon prediction of 1975. why would the wts make this prediction?

  what was their real purpose?.

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  slimboyfat

  In addition to the good reasons for doubting this explanation of 1975 already given. I would add that there is simply no evidence that JWs' status as a proselytising community has ever been in doubt. Especially in the United States where they fought many legal battles on that basis. They may have preached more leading up to 1975, but they were also highly active preaching before the prediction, as well as following the failed date.

  And as others pointed out, the evidence is that Fred Franz was the driving force behind 1975. If there is any evidence he was motivated by legal and financial pressures, rather than what he appeared to be, caught up in his own obscure biblical formulations, it's not been presented.

  Plus 1975 was not first mentioned in 1966, as another poster careful has pointed out, this date was indicated as early as the 1940s.
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  jw party goes very wrong.

  by cobweb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://youtu.be/q6b77gm8xxi.

  came across this audio recording on youtube which i found compelling.

  an xjw recounts the story of how jws recently had a big party in the us.

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  slimboyfat

  Clever idea for a story, just inside the realms of possibility because of 1) JW desire to avoid bad publicity and 2) herd mentality.
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  jw party goes very wrong.

  by cobweb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://youtu.be/q6b77gm8xxi.

  came across this audio recording on youtube which i found compelling.

  an xjw recounts the story of how jws recently had a big party in the us.

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  slimboyfat

  It sounds almost like a radio play to me.
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  Family contact in terminal illness cases.

  by Disassociated Lady 2 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i had not seen my parents for over 15 years since the funeral of my brother and even then no one spoke to me as i was da.

  my dad was diagnosed with terminal cancer in 2014 and i was then permitted contact with them.

  i now know the reason that this is allowed.

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  slimboyfat

  When JWs break up families, in particular when they stop parents from talking to children, you'd think, morally, they'd have an obligation to look after the parents who have followed the rules and alienated theselves. Regular morality doesn't seem to apply to JWs however. They feel no obligation or responsibility for the consequences of their action or policies.
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  Does it not dawn on the cart witnesses?

  by jambon1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i sat in town recently, right in the window of a nice wee pub.

  within minutes i realised that i had a perfect view of a jw cart and the two ridiculously dressed jw's (they have absolutely no individuality at all.

  what's more, they all look like they're going to a funeral).

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  slimboyfat

  Yeah it's not exactly "Religion is a snare and a racket!" is it?
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  Why is it so hurtful to be shunned? Why object to it?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it seems like many feel hurt or saddened by the practice of shunning by witnesses.. yes, when ones who we were close to, perhaps family or ones we thought were close friends choose to follow the warped directions of the society, it may seem hurtful.. but really, our reaction is up to us.

  the fact is, these ones have shown that in reality, their love for us was never real or genuine.

  no, those relationships were superficial and lacking in substance.

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  slimboyfat

  Because, despite telling yourself that they are under mind control and "only following the rules", you can't help feeling that their affection for you should have been meaningful enough to override it.
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  Found Another Medieval Coin This Evening

  by cofty in

  1. social
  2. physical

  i got in an hour metal detecting this evening and found this almost immediately.. it is a silver penny of henry ii minted in london by "davi" between 1180 and 1189. this adds a king i didn't have in my collection.

  i now have the series of henry ii - john - henry iii - edward i - edward ii - edward iii.. i now need richard the lionheart to fill in the gap.

  he was the brother of john and reigned after the death of henry ii.

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  Thanks for the explanation. I would like to do that. These machines are bound to get more and more sophisticated. I wonder if or when technology will reach a point of being able to catalogue all of the objects on the face of the planet, and in the soil, and what hid treasures and knowledge might be uncovered then.
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  Found Another Medieval Coin This Evening

  by cofty in

  1. social
  2. physical

  i got in an hour metal detecting this evening and found this almost immediately.. it is a silver penny of henry ii minted in london by "davi" between 1180 and 1189. this adds a king i didn't have in my collection.

  i now have the series of henry ii - john - henry iii - edward i - edward ii - edward iii.. i now need richard the lionheart to fill in the gap.

  he was the brother of john and reigned after the death of henry ii.

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  slimboyfat

  Can you say how did you start to do metal detecting and learn about how and what equipmeant to use? Are you part of a local group? Maybe you know this person although it says anonymous.

  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-37285349
  

  
  
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  Jehovah's Witnesses - a religion of displaced people?

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've had a theory for a long time that jws historically have appealed to people who have been displaced or find themselves in a new environment away from family and friends.

  i also read an article recently that suggested that internal migration in italy was a big boost for jw growth.

  more generally it has long been theorised that new religious movements are a phenomenon particularly associated with disruptive features of modernity, including the hyper-mobility of people in the modern age.

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  slimboyfat

  Thanks for the replies. I thought this would be a much more common experience just because I heard so many stories like this.
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  How to Fade - The Basics!

  by The Searcher in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this really works.

  i've already applied the basics of this with one elder who "offered" us a shepherding visit.

  we've been totally ignored since!!!

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  slimboyfat

  This is very good advice. I wish I had followed it.

  I played the game well for a few years but in the end they got me. Now I am marked as bad association which is not much different from DFing.

  Repeat any/all of the above to anyone who tries to extract information from you, because the elders will likely get someone you trust to try and get information out of you!

  That's what they did to me and I fell for it.