i’m hearing paraphrasing like “we just don’t know” .
is this regarding 1914?
or micheal the arch angel?.
They grew by 1.4% last year? That’s not decline that’s growth.
Number of congregations has gone down slightly in recent years, which is the best evidence for decline, but that is a very modest drop compared to other churches, and even at that, the number of congregations actually went up slightly in 2023.
what does jump the shark mean?.
the phrase “jump the shark” is a term in pop culture that originated from the tv show “happy days” and is used to describe a decline in quality.
it refers to the moment when a tv show or other product has reached its peak and starts to decline in quality.
Yes, for me too, all these recent changes pale in comparison to the “overlapping generation” teaching. What on earth was that? I genuinely tried to understand what they were saying but it hurt my brain.
i’m hearing paraphrasing like “we just don’t know” .
is this regarding 1914?
or micheal the arch angel?.
I’ve not read the whole thread, but in answer to the opening post I do believe it’s possible the GB will revise the 1914 teaching, given all the recent changes they’ve made. If they are taking the religion seriously then you’d think something needs to be done about it sooner or later. Maybe not abandon it altogether. I don’t know. Given the state of the world and the threats to the human race it is pretty ironic timing to be abandoning endtimes focus altogether, so maybe they won’t do that. So how do they abandon 1914 and keep the endtimes orientation? If Fred Franz was still around he might have come up with a new interpretation of the endtimes but there is nobody on the GB now who is up to the task. The projected AI “singularity” to fall sometime 2029 or 2045 according to various futurists seems tantalisingly close to 2034 that some have suggested Watchtower could tie into 1914 plus 120 years. But if they were going to point to 2034 in any significant way they are leaving it pretty late now.
uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
Jana the only reason the LE channel still exists is because LE has no other source of income. It is on a permanent downward trajectory and will fold at the point where the amount of money it generates no longer motivates LE to even pay lip service to the idea he is running a channel for xJWs. By supporting him along the way you are only prolonging his grift and, many would say, the damage that he is able to do.
dominic enyart exposes watchtower deception regarding their demonization of the cross.
information packed.
interesting take on paganism as well.
If Jesus could ride into Jerusalem on two donkeys then I don’t see why he couldn’t be executed on both a cross and a stake? 💡 If this turns out to be the correct answer I want credit. 😁
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It doesn't work that way. Unless Croatia has some medieval divorce laws
Just because it doesn’t work like that doesn’t mean to say LE realises it doesn’t work like that. He is an expert in all things in his own imagination, including the law as his weird pronouncements on supposed libel have shown.
The idea of him paying for his wife and kids is as remote as the cat surprising me with breakfast in bed. He’ll weasel out somehow even if it lands him in a whole lot of trouble.
uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
Its hard to make sense of it, but I think he was trying to say that hiring sex workers is just one thing among a variety of activities a person engages when going to Thailand and that his critics were being puritanical and/or racist by focussing on that one thing rather than, say, scuba diving or eating local food, that he did in Thailand. Unwittingly he seems to be saying that hiring the bodies of young women is just a regular part of his lifestyle and he doesn’t get why this would be objectionable or even odd for 99% of people.
uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
Gosh Lloyd being interviewed by a channel that barely makes 1000 views per video. How low he has fallen. Given the low numbers, I don't think this guy would cancel the interview. If anything it will be his most viewed video.
He won’t go far if that’s indicative of his standards.
Anyone with any sense could see that the kind of publicity LE can provide is not publicity you want to have.
couple years ago as a promising ms i had some weird conversations with two young elders.
it was always as we where alone only i and the elder.
they would initiate a conversations about things like blood doctrine, celebrating birthdays, view on homosexuality etc.
Seems doubtful.
I think we on the forum and online generally don’t appreciate just how seldom “apostasy” crosses the minds of ordinary JWs. For most it’s just not an issue, until it is, then often they leave. You don’t get many JWs long term worrying about apostasy either in themselves or others. They’ve got other things to think about, such as all the talks and tasks they have to perform, the CO visit and so on.
https://youtu.be/pi7sn2rnrke?si=lnvklqct6nuayv2q.
branches of jehovah’s witnesses: 85 (= down one from 86 from the previous year and quite possibly they are referring to the hong kong bethel that closed down recently).
number of lands reporting: 239 ( =the same as 2022).
West Bank, Gaza, and East Jerusalem, presumably?
Also interesting that they’ve adopted Türkiye in place of Turkey. When did that start?
