I think it’s a possibility. I heard a local JW say that tithing really wasn’t so bad because it was never strictly enforced. Jews were asked to contribute a tenth but nobody checked up on them to see if they paid the full amount. (Unlike the Mormons, and others, who check!) That sounds like the kind of tithing that the GB could plausibly introduce: they tell JWs that they should be contributing a tenth of their income but that it’s up to their own conscience whether they meet that obligation or not. I think it would be highly effective because you’d get a reasonable proportion of JWs who would feel conscience bound to contribute a tenth of their income. The others were probably wishy washy JWs to begin with and it might be a further psychological barrier that separates marginal JWs from feeling part of the group.
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Will the GB Eventually "observe" Tithing?
by Sea Breeze infound this on fb from the recent losch talk.
time for a new business model?.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)
by Simon inuh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
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slimboyfat
The so-called lawsuit is a complete nonsense and has been from the start. It’s so ridiculous at every level that a formal response seems like an altogether unnecessary compliment to pay to this drivel that he has apparently been cutting and pasting in his attic, or wherever he is now. He is a child. I realise that receiving a so-called legal letter can feel threatening no matter how imbecilic and lacking self awareness the accuser, but it’s really not worth any energy beyond a good laugh. There is no way any judicial system in any country will take any of it seriously.
Meanwhile on his channel he seems to be doing what I predicted months ago: add very occasional videos and sit back and let the money keep rolling in for as long as the suckers keep paying. He clearly hates doing JW videos to the point where it physically repulses him. He can manage a few minutes every few weeks and that’s about it. But as long as people keep sending their donations he’ll happily take them. This could go on for many months or even years. I wouldn’t be surprised if he stops videos entirely by allows the Patreon donations to tumble in regardless without making any public comment. Not bad having hundreds of pounds coming in every week for doing nothing while out looking for some other employment or means of income to replace it.
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2023-Novermber-Files!
by Atlantis in2023-november files.. 2023 shepherd the flock of god--elder manual in english.
2023-november announcements and reminders.download..https://www.filemail.com/d/thynixcxksaypqy orhttps://we.tl/t-lciljrizhsgrandpa!
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Thanks, Atlantis 👍
Clarification: Watchtower has “no objection” to JWs sending their relatives or friends assistance if they are in a disaster in another area. How gracious of them. Such freedom!
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Noah + new understanding
by dothemath inso they mentioned noah couldn’t have preached to all the population back before the flood.
do you think they might start using common sense regarding not being able to get every animal type on the ark from the whole world?.
maybe the poor sloth from south america didn’t have to crawl all the way?
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Sheesh scientists think they know everything. Didn’t Noah use the kangaroos to spread the message? Call it speculation but that’s what I heard happened. 🤓
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Why is the Faithful Slave Now Admitting Ignorance?
by Vanderhoven7 indbm writes on the question: will sodomites get a resurrection?.
i guess it depends the date that you asked this question.
here is a screenshot from a video which gives an overview of the changes (new light) on this question:.
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slimboyfat
It’s part of a trend. They also said they don’t know if there will be marriage in the resurrection a few years ago. Plus they said they are not confident in all the typological interpretations published in the past and will stick to the few mentioned explicitly in the Bible. The GB know less and less in general as time goes on.
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Tracy Chapman & John Mellencamp
by BoogerMan indid tracy chapman "sample" john mellencamp's song for her big hit, "fast car"?.
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slimboyfat
There’s a slight similarity for a few seconds and the it changes direction. Is somebody making an issue out of this?
I prefer Talkin’ ‘bout a Revolution and Mountains O’ Things anyway
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Trinity Statements in the Dead Sea Scrolls
by Sea Breeze indr. ken johnson has identified several statements in the dead sea scrolls that predict that god would visit the earth as a man... as the messiah.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljrfvytjhve&ab_channel=kenjohnson%28biblefacts%29 .
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The NT never calls God's angels 'THEOS',
By confining your statement to the NT it seems you are aware that the OT does call the angels gods in places like Ps 8.5. Why doesn’t that count?
Christ has a higher dignity than the angels, according to the beginning of chapter 1 of the letter to the Hebrews.
What Heb 1.4 says is that Jesus “became” better than the angels because he inherited a more excellent name than theirs. This makes sense if Jesus was elevated above the angels as JWs believe. On the other hand it makes no sense to talk about God himself “becoming” better than angels.
Which manuscript are you saying had a full stop in John 1.1c?
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)
by Simon inuh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
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slimboyfat
The whole “libellous” claim is complete nonsense. I’ve pointed it out numerous times, but if he was serious about defending his name against defamation then wouldn’t he have directed his legal action against the journalist who described him as a manipulative cult leader (Andrew Gold), and the psychiatrist and author who described him as a narcissistic psychopath? (Dr Sohom Das) If he thought he had a leg to stand on then that’s where he would direct his “legal team”. His so called “legal action” is a barely veiled attempt to bully other xJW YouTubers into stop telling the truth about him, nothing more and nothing less.
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How Much of Russell and Rutherford is Left?
by NotFormer inrussell is kind of acknowledged as the founder, but rutherford is the one who really made the wt what it is, or at least laid the foundations for what it came to be, today.
how much would someone from that era recognise in the wt today?
what are the big changes that they would see?.
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slimboyfat
Quartoceimanism also dates from the Russell era, plus rejection of the Trinity and support for Arian-like Christology. The complete rejection of “social gospel” in the Russell era also remains in the DNA of JW culture.
Who came up with the JW reading of Gen 3:15? Was that Russell or later?
Russell held that salvation remains open to almost everyone who has ever lived, including Adam. For this, some of his contemporaries accused him of the heresy of “universalism”, which he denied. Personally I think Russell was closer to the mark than current JW teaching. Jehovah will save everyone in the end. Isn’t this what 2 Pet 3.9 says?
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How Much of Russell and Rutherford is Left?
by NotFormer inrussell is kind of acknowledged as the founder, but rutherford is the one who really made the wt what it is, or at least laid the foundations for what it came to be, today.
how much would someone from that era recognise in the wt today?
what are the big changes that they would see?.
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In a real sense Russell has been demoted and Rutherford has been promoted by the recent “faithful slave” change which, as far as I understand it, teaches that the faithful slave only came into existence in 1919. This means that Russell was never part of the faithful slave and that Rutherford was the leader when the faithful slave was selected.
I think Fred Franz is up there with Russell and Rutherford as one of the most important leaders in Watchtower history. He dominated the written religious output of the organisation between 1928 and the 1980s, including most prominently their Bible translation.