Morpheus I appreciate you have direct experience of bethel and the rules and I don't question that. But you weren't at bethel when they were sacking a quarter of the workforce in a short period of time. Who knows what kinds of madness might prevail in that situation. There's no need to accuse the guy of making it up.
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Updates on the workload of Bethelites
by usualusername1 inhave the bethelites started cooking and doing their own washing yet?
how are they coping?.
paul.
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Marrying outside the lord
by label licker ini should know the answer to this but my memory is failing big time.
our friend just called who is still in the cult.
he's been away from it for about five months now.
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slimboyfat
Marrying a non-Witness is not a DFing offence.
Who knows what they are up to. I suggest he simply asks them why they want to have a meeting.
Whatever it is he's probably best to be completely repentant and compliant with any demands if he wants to try to avoid getting DFed.
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Thinking about the end of the Watchtower
by JeffT infirst, a word about the watchtower’s financial position: nobody (outside the watchtower organization) knows.
the wtbs is not required to disclose its finances, and doesn’t.
we can speculate, but that is all we are doing.
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slimboyfat
Indeed, it would be very traumatic for many JWs.
I kind of hope that a better religion might emerge. One that still opposes war, uses God's name, and preaches a paradise earth, but one that doesn't shun people or discourage education, free discussion, and trying to make the world a better place where possible.
Maybe if they closed the religion down as gradually as possible that would be the kindest way to do it. Like continue the steps they've been taking:
1. Stop the book study
2. Reduce the literature near to zero
3. Cancel the midweek meeting
4. Reduce the WT to a series of questions for open discssiom
5. Stop recording ministry time or having organised ministry meetings
6. Say any person who gives wise advice is a "faithful slave"
7. Consign 1914 to history
8. Be kind to former JWs instead of shunning them
After implementing those changes it would hardly matter if they closed their doors in the end or whether they continue as a positive community. Either way it would be less traumatic for all involved if they did it gradually.
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Updates on the workload of Bethelites
by usualusername1 inhave the bethelites started cooking and doing their own washing yet?
how are they coping?.
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Maybe it was especially harsh for some reason... or maybe not. Maybe this is how they are dispatching people from bethel these days.
According to the 2016 and 2017 yearbooks they got rid of something like 6000 or 7000 bethelites in one year. That's more than a quarter of the total number, and totally unprecended in their whole history.
So in that kind of upheaval I guess things like this can happen, more by bureaucracy than any particular malice.
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Updates on the workload of Bethelites
by usualusername1 inhave the bethelites started cooking and doing their own washing yet?
how are they coping?.
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I would hesitate to contradict his story. Evidently something happened that shook him up. And billing him for fruit seems odd, but with people "following rules" you just never know. The trouble is his story is not very clear. He seems a bit traumatised to me.
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Updates on the workload of Bethelites
by usualusername1 inhave the bethelites started cooking and doing their own washing yet?
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paul.
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Do I understand this former bethelite right? He says he was told he was being laid off because of downsizing, then they came to clear his stuff straight away. He skipped breakfast and lunch, but when he took some fruit at tea time they sent him a bill as he was on his way out?
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How Rutherford did a backflip (flop) off the Great Pyramid
by TerryWalstrom inin 1924, judge rutherford published an article which referred to the great pyramid as "the scientific bible" and added that measurements on the grand gallery inside the great pyramid confirmed the dates 1874, 1914 and 1925.. 1925 was the famous blowout date for the return of "ancient worthies" about which the judge said, "i made an ass of myself.".
just four years later, rutherford did one of his famous about-face reversals.. whereas previously the watchtower had taught that the great pyramid was probably built by melchizedek, or shem;*.
rutherford now said the great pyramid was constructed "under the direction of satan the devil.
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Is that Rutherford doing the backflip on the pyramid, nine pictures down?
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Will Watchtower target the inactive?
by ToesUp inif watchtower has no reason to df ones.
they have just become inactive.
do you all think wt will begin a witch hunt (df'ing) for these inactive ones?
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slimboyfat
This happened already, no? In the convention or WT where it said no to associate with inactive people if their "lifestyle was objectionable", or something like that. Some JWs and elders interpreted that pretty broadly as an excuse to label all inactive JWs bad association and avoid them. As so often, because the instruction was vague, there was room for liberal or conservative interpretations.
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How Rutherford did a backflip (flop) off the Great Pyramid
by TerryWalstrom inin 1924, judge rutherford published an article which referred to the great pyramid as "the scientific bible" and added that measurements on the grand gallery inside the great pyramid confirmed the dates 1874, 1914 and 1925.. 1925 was the famous blowout date for the return of "ancient worthies" about which the judge said, "i made an ass of myself.".
just four years later, rutherford did one of his famous about-face reversals.. whereas previously the watchtower had taught that the great pyramid was probably built by melchizedek, or shem;*.
rutherford now said the great pyramid was constructed "under the direction of satan the devil.
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slimboyfat
There are some pictures of Rutherford scrambling about the pyramid too. Looks like the heat is getting to him.
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The Children Act: The Movie - By Ian McEwan and directed by Richard Eyre
by darkspilver inrichard eyre's film adaptation of ian mcewan's book the childen act has it's world premiere at the toronto international film festival in september 2017. the children act.
emma thompson and stanley tucci star in this adaptation of the novel by ian mcewan, about a high-court judge who finds personal and professional crises colliding when she is asked to rule in the case of a brilliant 18-year-old boy who is refusing the blood transfusion that would save his life.. adapted by booker prize–winning author ian mcewan from his own novel, this riveting drama stars two-time academy award winner emma thompson as a british high court judge tasked with making a decision that will speak to our most fraught questions regarding religious tolerance — and could mean life or death for an innocent young man.. judge fiona maye (emma thompson) is married to her work, which has become a problem for her husband, jack (stanley tucci), who announces that he wants to have an affair.
treating the matter more as an annoyance than a life-altering crisis, fiona kicks jack out and focuses on her current case.
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slimboyfat
He's been getting poorer. Early books were the best.