Posts by slimboyfat

Reminds me of my uncle. His first language isn't English and he puts E in front of every word: we have emeal of echicken and erice we especially cooked for eyou.

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Why Charles Taze Russell was NOT a Freemason

by ILoveTTATT2 in

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the article is now in english.

please let me know what you think.. http://verdadtj.com/atalaya/russell-not-a-freemason.php.

I like that you counter the "proofs" too. i never got round to reading Fritz Springmeyer. Are these really the best arguments he produces in the whole book? Seems pretty thin. I always thought there would be more to it than that, just because of the length of the book.

As "proof" that he was a Freemason, the following statements are generally made:
He used multiple Masonic Symbols in his publications
He is buried under a pyramid, which is a Masonic Symbol
He is buried on or near a Masonic Temple/Center
He gave a speech in which he mentioned he was a Mason
The Masons have made a conspiracy to remove his name from the registry because they're ashamed of him.

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BBC 4 Thought for the Day Talks about Russian Ban against JWS. by Rev Dr Giles Frazer - 24 April 2017

by Da.Furious in

just started getting on instant messaging platforms an audio clip having rev dr giles fraser talking about the russian ban on jws.. this is very similar to the post on guardian.

discussed here: https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5668600843075584/guardian-russia-persecution-jehovahs-witnesses-begins-all-over-again.

link to the 3 minute audio clip: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p050zjdq.

slimboyfat

He did an excellent job, linking it to 1933, and pointing out the real issue here is state worship and state extremism not tolerating any sort of rival. JW pedants will be thinking to themselves the blood ban is based on Acts not Leviticus, and anti-military stance based on "no part of the world".

Slightly amused at Frazer's mispronunciation leading to new word "persecrated". On top of being the thinkingest people on earth JWs are the most persecrated too.

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Why Charles Taze Russell was NOT a Freemason

by ILoveTTATT2 in

jw
friends

the article is now in english.

please let me know what you think.. http://verdadtj.com/atalaya/russell-not-a-freemason.php.

slimboyfat

It reads good to me. A good overview of a subject I've not read very extensively.

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So, how's it feel, Watchtower -- now that the shoe's on the other foot?

by FatFreek 2005 in

yes, your cult has been banned in russia.

what surprises me is that this hasn't happened in more countries.

what surprises me is that civil suits in the u.s. haven't flooded the courts -- violation of civil and human rights because of the cruel act of shunning of disfellowshipped ones, even members of one's own family.. discrimination is a form of cruelty and civil and human rights define such.

slimboyfat

Shunning is a horrendously stone age way of trying to control and influence others but the law will never make it illegal. You can't force people to talk to others.

I used to think that was a compelling argument. But now I think it misses the point. No law would be drafted to say that shunning another person is illegal. What could conceivably be made illegal is operating an organisation whose policies and documents mandate and regulate shunning. That could technically be made a matter of law, presumably, just as organisations are not allowed to discriminate on the basis of race, gender, sexuality, they would not be allowed to formulate and promote and a system that stigmatises former members. So I don't think it's impossible or a ridiculous idea.

Having said that I don't think it's a good idea to go down the route of banning organisations that employ shunning.

Removing charitable status on the other hand seems entirely proportionate and would be effective in my view.

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Russia banning JWs might not have the "persecution effect" this time

by truthseeker in

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russia banning the organization might not have the same effect as the earlier ban did decades ago.. more and more people have access to the internet.

it only takes a few russian jws to start their google search for the first time to discover the truth about their religion.. questions might arise, such as "why is jehovah allowing this to happen?

consider too, the schism that happened when the romanian jws were cut off from brooklyn.

slimboyfat

After large increases in the 1990s JWs had already begun to decline in Russia and Eastern Europe in recent years. The ban this time won't be a replay of decades past. Many JWs were already apathetic. The ban might push many give up JW association altogether and leave a small core of fanatics.

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Sudden General Election in UK to be held June 8th 2017

by freddo in

theresa may the british p.m. has called for an election.. the house of commons has to vote tomorrow and have a two-thirds majority to agree and the main opposition parties want it to happen too so it looks pretty certain to go ahead..

slimboyfat

Where is Sturgeon unpopular? The Daily Mail?

She is by far the most popular leader in Scotland.

http://www.scotsman.com/news/how-nicola-sturgeon-and-ruth-davidson-s-approval-ratings-have-changed-1-4417273

More and more Scots support indepdence. At the start of the last campaign only 30% of Scots supported independence. Now polls put support at around 50% and the campaign hasn't even started yet.

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Sudden General Election in UK to be held June 8th 2017

by freddo in

theresa may the british p.m. has called for an election.. the house of commons has to vote tomorrow and have a two-thirds majority to agree and the main opposition parties want it to happen too so it looks pretty certain to go ahead..

slimboyfat

Theresa May called the election because wants a blank check to do whatever she wants.

Labour can't win the election obviously, but many people in England are voting Labour to try to curb the Tory majority.

In Scotland we will likely vote SNP to curb the Tories.

We won't get another chance until 2022 because of May's cynical timing.

Journalists and others have noticed May is not above "playing games with politics" as she puts it.

It will backfire as people vote to stop her getting a landslide.