slimboyfat
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List of "pagan" things JW's allow
by problemaddict 2 inwhat i'm looking for specifically is things that are "pagan" in the sense they predate christianity (or i guess judiasm to cover the ole mosaic code), that jw's allow or do.
the ones that come to mind are below.. rings - rings seem to originate in egypt.
for wedding ceremonies it became a symbol of "ownership" in rome.. pinatas - looks like possibly it originated in china as a part of the new year and a request for luck, and catholics later turned it into a beating of temptation type thing.. anything else?.
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When a man stops believing in God he doesn’t then believe in nothing, he believes anything - G KChesterton
by slimboyfat ini have been reading rodney stark's new book triumph of faith, where he makes his argument afresh that religion is alive and well.
in fact he says it's doing better than ever, and we are in the middle of a revival of faith.
above is a particular quote he likes to use when refusing secularisation.
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slimboyfat
Treating evolution as a religion borders on superstition like believing in trolls.
The opposite of belief isn't atheist it's apathy.
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When a man stops believing in God he doesn’t then believe in nothing, he believes anything - G KChesterton
by slimboyfat ini have been reading rodney stark's new book triumph of faith, where he makes his argument afresh that religion is alive and well.
in fact he says it's doing better than ever, and we are in the middle of a revival of faith.
above is a particular quote he likes to use when refusing secularisation.
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slimboyfat
It's not just trolls people turn to after rejecting God. Some make a religion out of evolution for example as we see on this forum.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Evolution-as-Religion-Routledge-Classics/dp/0415278333
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When a man stops believing in God he doesn’t then believe in nothing, he believes anything - G KChesterton
by slimboyfat ini have been reading rodney stark's new book triumph of faith, where he makes his argument afresh that religion is alive and well.
in fact he says it's doing better than ever, and we are in the middle of a revival of faith.
above is a particular quote he likes to use when refusing secularisation.
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slimboyfat
I have been reading Rodney Stark's new book Triumph of Faith, where he makes his argument afresh that religion is alive and well. In fact he says it's doing better than ever, and we are in the middle of a revival of faith.
Above is a particular quote he likes to use when refuting secularisation. or generally the idea that, as humankind progresses toward greater enlightenment and rationality, it is becoming steadily less religious. He claims that even people who don't go to church still believe in the spiritual. He uses the example of Iceland. On the one hand secularists can point to it as a very secular country that's stopped going to church, stopped believing traditional Christian teaching, and has a relatively high number of atheists. On the other hand close to half of the population of Iceland believe that trolls live on the land. So much so that when they plan a new building they first seek confirmation from troll experts that they are not building on top of a troll settlement, which would bring terrible luck. Icelanders may have given up on the Christian God but the G K Chesterton rule seems to apply. How does that fit in with the idea that we are progressing toward rational secularity?
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Proof that Daniel was written 400 years after the events it describes and how much it gets wrong
by purrpurr ini've been studying the bible anew and have just realised that the writer of daniel gets the kings of babylon completely wrong and confused.
he says that nebuchadnezzar was succeeded by his son belshazzar .
then along comes good old cyrus the great who liberates the jews.. yet this is wrong!
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slimboyfat
This book by Furuli must be due soon:
At present I am working on a book entitled: "When Was the Book of Daniel Written? A Linguistic, Philological and Historical Approach," where I question the view that the book of Daniel was written in the second century BCE in connection with the acts of Antiochus IV.
https://www.ibiblio.org/bgreek/forum/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=2254
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British Branch Committee
by Paul Bonanno indoes anyone know the present members of the british branch committee?.
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slimboyfat
Don't know but I vaguely remember a thread saying Paul Gillies was gone is that true? And Ron Drage and Peter Ellis too. I don't follow these things.
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Harassment of Individual JWs
by Simon injust a reminder:.
please do not use this site to pursue, conduct or incite harassment of any individual jws who are not officers or directors of the organization.. if someone is guilty of some specific crime then it should be reported to the authorities but someone simply following their religious beliefs and taking part in their chosen religion should be free to do so without personal attacks..
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slimboyfat
Good points to make. At the same time I do think the post on another thread that may have prompted this post was intended as a joke, and I think most would have read it that way. Good to clarify nonetheless.
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I've been found out!
by pale.emperor inwell, thats it folks.. my identity on here has been rumbled and reported to the elders.
someone, somehow, has figured out that im a member of this site and - rather than speak to me - has promptly reported me to the elders.
i just feel sad for my daughter.
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slimboyfat
I kind of figured out that you were not too bothered about getting caught and it was a relief in a way.
I'm getting a similar vibe in relation to your marriage though?
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slimboyfat joins the Mormons!
by slimboyfat ini know that some people on the board have experience of being mormons, so i would be interested in your feedback.
at church this afternoon it was an uncanny experience.
in the past i've read a lot about mormons, so i thought i was prepared in general for what it would be like.
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slimboyfat
I forgot to mention another thing they do is they use early modern English, or mainly just thee and thou instead of you. They do this in all aspects of the service: prayers, hymns, and even during sermons.
I wonder what they do in other languages to make it sound distinctive or if it's just a feature of Mormonism in English speaking areas.
Many aspects of the service remind you of 19th century America: the look of the church, the language, the hymns, the dress, the traditional roles for women,
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Did others experience this on the ministry or among JWs generally?
by slimboyfat insometimes it's hard to know if our own experience of jws was typical and what features were peculiar to our own area or the individual jws we knew personally.
i was wondering if others experienced this among jws:.
a few times on the ministry, when we were working wealthy areas with large houses, some brothers and sisters would make the comment that they look forward to taking ownership of one of these big houses after armageddon, when the worldly people have vacated them.
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slimboyfat
I don't know. If you've got one religion that says do the best you can and make the best of your life, and the other that actively discourages you. I'd say that's a non-trivial difference!