They interviewed the old JW croney, RP, but for some reason they left out his middle initial (I).
Posts by steve2
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March 2020 Broadcast - Hard Push to Baptism. Why?
by Smiles inthe jw broadcast for march 2020 is a hard push for more baptisms, where mark sanctamonious sanderson makes ready use of the phrase "baptised disciples of jesus" instead of their typical catch phrase "baptised servants of jehovah".
the "jesus message" is somewhat unusual rhetoric for jehovah's witnesses.
why the big push for more baptism?
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My email to JW Following Trolley Conversation
by cofty ina few weeks ago i had an really interesting conversation with three male jws who were loitering around a trolley at the west end of princes street in edinburgh.. i managed to completely avoid giving any hint about my jw past and focussed on why they thought the bible was a reliable moral guide.
i used the subject of slavery to illustrate my concerns.. one of the three was in his early twenties, knew a lot about his own beliefs but nothing about the real life and it was difficult to get through his thought-bubble.
the second one was in his 60s and not very bright.
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steve2
A tactfully and respectfully composed email, cofty. Being on the relatively brief side, it would not have been too arduous for him to read and comprehend. The absence of rhetoric is a standout. I suspect the reason he has not answered is he realized there is no defenceable response.
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steve2
It must be extremely hard for an individual who has spent a lifetime believing something to admit to themselves that they have been misled all of those years .
Yes, it's known as "the sunk-cost fallacy": The more you have invested in something, the more sacrifices you have made for it, the less likely you will objectively evaluate it and the more likely you will feel more convinced about it because the alternative view that you are wrong is too horrible to live with.
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steve2
They do not die at the same time or even the same time period - so there is never a time when more than one JW male joins the GB.
Also, newcomers to the GB are chosen very carefully because of their demonstrated loyalty to the organization and conservative outlook. Selection criteria would exclude intelligence and critical thinking skills, among other qualities of thinkers. Even Ray Franz only left the GB after significant years of doubt.
Do not expect a new broom to sweep clean the organization.
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Good Youtube channels
by belogical inok i'll start the ball rolling.
winston from jamaica with his excellent channel.
lots of short and to the point videos.. https://www.youtube.com/channel/ucmfy5skgfysq36ug1ismnsg.
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steve2
- For sheer consistency and depth of coverage on all things ex-JW, you can't go passed John Cedars: Thoughtful, well reasoned, and acknowledges other's points of view.
- BTW, for physical health reasons, Susan Gaskin's channel is on hold - but, man, when she was making videos, she provided an important and insightful woman's perspective.
- A very promising channel is Ali's big toe. I've only seen a few, but am already hooked. A distinctively calm and reasonable voice.
- I used to tune into Kim and Mikey, but their videos became a bit too shouty and sensationalist (and at the same time, their hearts are in the right place.
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I thought New Zealand was a DECENT country!
by The Fall Guy ina criminal in nz- in this case a murderer - has the right not to be identified - even after conviction?
quote: "why was grace millane’s murderer granted anonymity?
the reasons for the so-called suppression order, like the name of the killer himself, cannot be given for legal reasons.
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steve2
The judge in the trial cited in the OP has said that the suppression order is not permanent. It has nothing to do with whether or not New Zealand is a left- leaning country because current legislation on name suppression was passed into law when the conservative National party was in power.
Once it is announced whether or not the defendant will appeal his 17-year sentence, the suppression order will be revisited by the Judge.
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First Proper Chat With the JWs in Almost 11 Years
by passwordprotected insince disassociating in october 2008, i've had little to no direct contact with the jws, apart from immediate family members (ie my parents).
i've lived in my rented flat since may 2014 and haven't had a knock on the door in that whole time.
until saturday morning.
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steve2
Mutual respect throughout the exchange. It could have turned negative very quickly but your astute mindedness paved the way for a helpful exchange. I like that you did not zero in on their specific beliefs as JWs but centred the exchange around beliefs shared by most Christian believers. They were less defensive and would even concede your points.
I've no doubt that these two JWs will remember the exchange and may even have thought far more deeply on the issues that came up. Well done!
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Congregations That May Dissolve Soon!!
by Atlantis infrom a member of the board asking for this to be posted.. hi.
i'm pimo.
could you please let people know about this?
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steve2
I can't find the Kim & Mike youtube re/these hall dissolutions
You can subscribe if you want to - or click on their icon and it will take you to thumbnails of all their videos - click on the relevant thumbnail and you'll be fine.
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Watch Tower's Popularity
by dydeonwl inwatchtower has been named as world's most published and circulated magazine in us.
amazing.
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steve2
Who wrote this fluff piece? Among other comments, the Awake "magazine" is described as a magazine "beloved of Christians."
I can't believe there's no comment about The Awake and the Watchtower in recent years becomming increasingly more like pamphlets or tracts than magazines.
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Nicholas King interview
by neat blue dog inhttps://www.broadwayworld.com/cabaret/article/bww-feature-nicolas-king-concentrated-awesome-20200117.
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steve2
He sounds gay - is he? No mention of wife and/or children?