i had aneuromuscular injury
the jehovahs witnesses forced treatment on it, to force me in a wheelchair to go preaching against my will and against medical instrucrions
with bombardment and abuse. taking control physically of the situation, the injuries incurred virtually crippled me, why am i not entitled to sue them for the injuries, and arrests, for compensation
i want 10 million in compensation for suffering and injuries.
how serious is depression related to your jw upbringing, association and/or disfellowshipment?
should this kind (or any other kind) of depression that lingers long after the wt smoke clears go untreated?
how have you successfully dealt with your depression?.
if the depression is congregation based
the depression is very serious, i almost found brainwashed individuals, i have had seven yrs of ptsd after they almost killed me.
it has to be remembered that a lot of these people are apostates regardless of here there or in the congreagation or wherever.
they push apostate views and that produces the effect of ill health, like in lamentations, i am ill all day long, etc
that depression is not normal, we saw it in congregations too, a strange tiredness that produces m.e. type symptoms ie unable to move or think clearly. it wasnt just simple depression it was the result of truly apostate brain beating not just having an argument getting df'ed and ending up here or somewhere else. some are in psychiatric units because of those effects and teachings.the depression does not need more jw therapy preaching meetings etc, that tactic was sickening when i saw it done, as far as i saw they need a return to normal daily living with milk and cookies so to speak till they get better. without pressure or brain beatings. which some areas have carried out. i have known people nearly suicidal, plz never take that course call an ambulance or whatever. that effect is a miswired jw brain unfortunately, and yes i have reported it to the police to get it stopped. they never saw my friends shaking in the corner with 2 nervous breakdowns yrs of hell running round preaching while they sat on their fat arses. that effect as i said can be very serious, especially if it comes from those apostate seared ones. they produce demonism so that produces severe mental abnormality, like voodoo or witchcraft.
some of the effects of those type of teachings produce violent outbursts, as they are the teachings of balaam, and the madness of those men became apparent to everybody. jesus said about demonic effects, like possesion those kind can come out by nothing except fasting and prayer, think fasting if youve got that effect put the articles down plz, and leave them alone, the errors in them a form of chirping to produce spiritistic effects.
loving people do not do such things, and shouldnt, they just care and help, the answer is not preaching, love and kindness works better. reassociation with the things that brought it on can and may well excaberbate the situation, please consult a doctor or psychologist not an elder or a watchtower.
jw treatment is not legal even, they are at best only quacks sometimes. plz consult youre own doctor not them, but of course verifiable info is acceptable.
plz accept my love and kindness, in a spirit of freindship. in my opinion that depression is different its a brain beating effect please consult a doctor if you or youre relatives have such things
these thoughts were emailed to me by an old friend, who was a j.w.
elder, and left the wts.
hope others might find something of value:
its strange. thats what they did to me. the first thing i noticed was how they forbad me to get married for their single requirements when i was young. the bombardment my sick friends injured in hospitals with ill health of their single preaching routines. they literally refused physically to let me move, like a tied up animal, and the worst thing was i wasnt arguing with them. they just refused to let us live or love. i dont know what happened to you, im not an apostate, they threw me out, without any concept of reality. smashed girlfriends, business endeavours, homes, to get their jw blessings, what god had given them that they could take to humiliate me for their religion. where did the bible say any of these things please, where does it speak of jw omnipotence, or bully boy david routines. where does it speak of threats intimadation wandering in the wilderness with moses, or the refusal to answer back or else we'll basically kill you. i needed police ambulances hospitals, they even saw the nead dead body only to come back and do it again ten times worse.
how can elders basically getting mouthy with me to cover up their wrongdoing be scriptural, raising their voices carrying out their eli style routines, claiming to be gods servants while they are doing it. how ?
how can they be gods servants if they dont do what he says , and although it may not be mine to remove them no im not sitting there and letting them do what they want to me or anything or anyone around me. in the past those people were rejected, how come now they are allowed to preach , teach, get involved, etc, all the time keeping dogs for preaching alone, calling it righteous.
i thought the christians always lived in the countries around them after judea went down not in the wilderness with moses. as far as i knew if you live in the wilderness you die in it, it was a punishment routine. like adam if he was obedient he lived in the garden , punishment was outside in the rocks.why does god want to kill me to cover up his peoples attacks ? , blaming and making me pay yet again for their pleasure.
i didnt do anything, neither did my friends, they just used abused, took and did whatever they wanted and did it deliberately to humiliate, tread on, and basically kill as far as i can see. continually involving me in disputes that are and were not mine, but there was nothing i could do once they started it, i couldnt just stand there while they did it too me. the viciousness i experienced at the hands of gods servants had to be beleived. to me it was devil worship i might as well been at the baal with cozbi and balaam , can somebody tell me what i was doing there, what it has got to do with me plz?
i understand what the hell was that all about why ? i never even agreed to do it, threats , injuries, near death stuff, financial losses, over and over and over again , are they insane, then after forbidding me the girl 3 times in 5 yrs, next thing child abuse reports, cop shop, state etc, all i see is blokes in suits and ties calling themselves gods servants cause they wear, isnt that adhering to the circumcision
i was finally dumped after the pervos placing me under sex arrest, while they sleep around and bless them, running round my genitals day in day out yr in yr out wether i can get married. we saw and heard demons, saw the way they work, even when we told them some of them just said it was a rat ?????????????????? can somebody explain that. now cop shop again more injuries physically and emotionally more trouble more pain all in the name of god to bless jws it seems, well im sorry but he told me to do otherwise its written down in that little book the bible, i thought we kept that not a mouthy jw regardless of who they are. for that my persecution, my reproach, my life it seems all in the name of god, why because i wouldnt buy a babylon party card ?
primarily their catholic single requiremnets ?
let alone being at sea, i was thrown out with nothing for some reason. so i dont know what happened to you but yeah tell me about it.
my husband and i had a committee meeting because of underage drinking.
when he was being counseled, the p.o.
told my husband that he needed to make me wear different clothes to the meeting because it made some of the brothers unable to concentrate.
after hospitalizing me and needing the police, the only reason i lived if you call it that.
i needed to make a claim for injuries on our state system. that was due to their attack. one elder after 3 yrs hassle to get his tax money back because he didnt want to pay any, decided to personally attack me for the taxes he had to pay for my injuries due to their involvement.
well as far as i know thats a 6 months prison sentence when you dont know and an unlimited fine, and a seven year prison sentence when you do know and an unlimited fine. as far as i know illegal behaviour to avoid paying tax, erm isnt that tax evasion.. including a visit with the co to lace his pockets basically, lets face it thats using his position to get money otherwise he wouldnt be able to do it.
so isnt that the rich man class, alive and kicking as i see it. isnt that a bit of strange counsel ?
my husband and i had a committee meeting because of underage drinking.
when he was being counseled, the p.o.
told my husband that he needed to make me wear different clothes to the meeting because it made some of the brothers unable to concentrate.
ermm might be a bit different, but they demand to put sex guards on me. yeah i reported them. see they say that if im in a place with a girl ill have sex, so they are coming with me uninvited to make sure i dont. what goes through my mind is what they are going to do to stop me, sword in the belly no doubt. now what sort of people was i dealing with , that all their beloved wives and daughters only had to walk through the door to sleep with me, isnt that immoral, and adulterous, now if i need guards on me to make sure i dont have sex shouldnt they have let me get married instead of holding me under sex arrest ?, which i had to report to the police.
isnt that weird ? and isnt sort of threatening me away from sisters to get them to sleep with guys outside the congregation procuring a woman with menaces ?
im still trying to work out why they demand guards on me, to force my compliance, including policing my home. what has that got to do with what the bible teaches ?
and how did i get this status by being a jw ?
didnt the bible say let them marry , so why am i policed to keep me away from girls ?
isnt that an oracle like a roman would keep, and as a request how do i get rid of the sex pests ?
when i necver consented to their organizations wishes of singleness to get preaching done ?
my nephew a jw who is white is dating another jw who is black with the intent to announce their engagement soon.. i had been reading about the past history of the jw's opinion of the black race.
old writings that said they were gods people too, but not intelligent as white etc and not qualified intellectually to go door to door to teach etc.that all people would be white in the new system.. i had read of a rope being run down the pews of the fellowship halls to separate the races during services during the 50's early 60's at the halls that did allow intergrated services... this was supposed to have taken place even up to a few years after de-segregation in the schools and other public places took effect.. that in some areas they had their own hall to meet at and the whites had theirs.
at one point the members of the black hall had asked to meet at the white hall as their building was being repaired or soemthing and they were told no, that some of the members of the white hall wouldn't understand or approve.. and i read that even up into the late 90's, many black members still weren't being given postions or responsibilities that whites had held since the beginning of the jw's.. i was just wondering how far they've come along to improve this image and if anyone knows thier opinion of interracial marriages.
you mean they let people get married where you live ?
wow ill have to move , they put us under sex arrest down here and the cop shop gets the reports.
ok, so there i am at work today, zooming up and down me ladder as i affix fascia boards, soffiting and guttering to the rear of a customers property.. pretty soon it started to rain.. now, good people, fascia-ing, soffit-ing and gutter-ing are not conducive with wet weather.
for several reasons.. 1. rain makes your power tools unsafe.. 2. the ground on which you work gets muddy.
this mud then gets transposed from your shoes onto the rungs of the ladder.
attacks by my ever loving brothers stopped me working, i had a problem i usually work with computers and electronics, my prob.......i had an internet connection, that was the end of that business. how long , when , to whom, im a technician i have to do that instead they crippled it with attacks, harrasment, bombardment to get their way... what am i supposed to live on, poverty , chastity, and obedience to me.. nuff said. not saying they are all like it but they are here generally.
just got back from holidays and read the posts about this topic.
let me clear a few things up to the ones that replied.
i should have mentioned that my story is posted in the womens section entitled "pretending".
bit fuller explanation.
i was sorta near shepherds bush then roehampton, then went to devil worship number1 morden church of jehovahs catholics.
they forbad me to marry repeatedly used to ring the elders up if i got married to get me done, told me it was a matter of my obedience.
told me it wasnt wrong to marry initself only wrong to marry at the time, they wanted more preaching done.
i claim sex control placed on me therefore sex abuse.
then reports of child abuse, we saw and heard demons, they keep us like oracles. i was unconscious for 36 hrs because of their bashings, threats , harrasment, intimadation, head injuries cops, ambulances, violent men, vandalism, threats of break ins to force my compliance, etc etc. they tried to put congregation guards on me in public in case i had sex, true honest. and then when i should have been in hospital and still have to get the medics in because of them doing it again threw me out without record. thats me. and a lot more besides. does anybody love me here ?
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this is going to sound crazy.. where we live we heard and saw demons over that time of the child abuse bit.. we also heard 3 million people walked out it was only balanced by 3 million newbies is that true does anyone know ?.
it must be verified of course.. i suufered severe injuries with attacks including police ambulances etc.. there seems to be an awful lot of people outside can we get a damage report to know whats wrong .
this is going to sound crazy.
where we live we heard and saw demons over that time of the child abuse bit.
we also heard 3 million people walked out it was only balanced by 3 million newbies is that true does anyone know ?
it must be verified of course.
i suufered severe injuries with attacks including police ambulances etc.
there seems to be an awful lot of people outside can we get a damage report to know whats wrong
what is going on ?
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ok im a brother from morden they threw me out , i didnt do it, they were forbidding me to get married, unreporterd child abuse could be in the area, they tried to get clever and threw me over the side of the ship.
anyway bethel have no record of my demise it seems that wasnt reported, lets be friends nobody else will talk to me.
ok im a brother from morden they threw me out , i didnt do it, they were forbidding me to get married, unreporterd child abuse could be in the area, they tried to get clever and threw me over the side of the ship. anyway bethel have no record of my demise it seems that wasnt reported, lets be friends nobody else will talk to me.
