Posts by googlemagoogle

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What have you done to counteract the 'cult of Jehovah's witnesses?'

by AK - Jeff in

i know that many here would place jehovah's witnesses on a list of 'cults'.

personally i don't think they meet all the standard definition - but would class them as an 'authoritarian sectarian movement'.

at any rate, most of us would not want our neighbors to get caught up in the mind-twisting that we endured and from which we finally removed ourselves.. that said - have any engaged in successfull enterprises to counter the movement?

googlemagoogle

Then by your standards there is nothing that would identify a cult.

yes, there is, but the list may not include the word "bible" (as if there would be only christian cults) nor a specific exegesis. by your definition the writer of "james" was member of a cult too.

could that member question that doctrine and not be excommunicated?

there you go! that's a sign of a cult.

but the list you offered is surprisingly similar to WTO argumentation: they are wrong, so we must be right.

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New meaning of Seed Parable

by unique1 in

i haven't been to a meeting in months.

but, i recently found out my father has cancer and he came to the hall in my area and asked me to go with him, so i did.

it was the co visit.

googlemagoogle

COs like to spread their own funky ideas on their visits. never heard of anything like that.

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Do you like cats?

by ozziepost in

on tonight's news:.

dead pets threaten beijing's 'green' olympics.

5:35 pm december 16 .

googlemagoogle

you wanna know if christians should own cats? here you go: http://www.jwfiles.com/ex-jw-humor1.htm

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What have you done to counteract the 'cult of Jehovah's witnesses?'

by AK - Jeff in

i know that many here would place jehovah's witnesses on a list of 'cults'.

personally i don't think they meet all the standard definition - but would class them as an 'authoritarian sectarian movement'.

at any rate, most of us would not want our neighbors to get caught up in the mind-twisting that we endured and from which we finally removed ourselves.. that said - have any engaged in successfull enterprises to counter the movement?

googlemagoogle

those items don't identify a cult, they simply identify another religious belief. it's like saying: one mark of a cult is claiming the trinity to be a false teaching. "cults deny salvation by faith alone" makes it obvious that this list is not about marking cults, but leading the reader simply to a different belief system.

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What have you done to counteract the 'cult of Jehovah's witnesses?'

by AK - Jeff in

i know that many here would place jehovah's witnesses on a list of 'cults'.

personally i don't think they meet all the standard definition - but would class them as an 'authoritarian sectarian movement'.

at any rate, most of us would not want our neighbors to get caught up in the mind-twisting that we endured and from which we finally removed ourselves.. that said - have any engaged in successfull enterprises to counter the movement?

googlemagoogle

Above list is from "Approaching Witnesses in Love" Wilbur Lingle

you can make anything meet the requirements if you make the list of requirements yourself. that's the very same thing the WTS does: the true religion must include this, this and that - we do this, this and that, so we are the true religion.

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Scot Peterson

by Valis in

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gets the death penalty...and i think he should go away..even if he didn't want the baby or to be with her, he could of left and beent he one to disappear, but no i think he's just greedy, callous, and not remoursefull... sincerely,.

district overbeer

googlemagoogle

i got you completely wrong then, sounded to me more like a rethorical question. i'm really sorry bout that. can't find anything insulting in my last post though.

i believe in something i'd call "predestination by circumstances". we do what we do and we are what we are because of a big and complex cocktail of DNA, how/where we grew up, how we were educated, which friends we have/had, how people treat(ed) us, if we were victims of violence, physical disease, drug addiction or mental disorders and millions of additional variables which make every one of us view the world at least a little bit different.

if one of those cocktails only contains extreme values, it's very likely for the resulting person to let the psychopath or demon most of us, if not all, have inside us, take over control. someone who kills - or commits another cruel crime - simply aint "normal". explore this persons past and you'll probably find the reason why he's not normal. but many have the attitude to blame the result instead of the cause. remove the cause to minimize the bad results.

but now that someone commited a cruel crime, how to deal with him (or her, for the feminists out there)? kill him and wait for the next incident to happen? what about trying to find out what happened? try to therapy the cause? and for those of you who prefer to spend their taxes on buying WMDs instead of improving humanitarian aid and science, why not let him work for the costs he causes?

i think the reason why people want to see a murderer dead, is simply revenge. revenge has always been the cause of really bad bad things. look at rwanda. i for one am glad to live in a country that doesn't play with human rights (yeah, "living" is a human right) - and guess what, even though we don't have the death penality here, this is a much much saver place to live than the usa is.

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Paradise, and the Garden of Eden

by Brownboy in

good morning,

questions for readers:

how many reside as kings and priests, along with christ, in the heavenly kingdom of god?

googlemagoogle

amen. and the wild beast and the harlot said amen.

interesting thing you made up with hamas and incas, never noticed they are so closely related. do you think the members of the fundamentalist islamic organisation of hamas are descendants of the incas?

and don't let those people decieve you by falsly telling you that the name america was derrived from amerigo vespucchi. what a unfounded nonsense. i personally believe it's made up of the words:

"am" - like the first person conjugation of "be"

"eric" - as in "eric the red", probably the first norse explorer to set foot on america

"as" - as "like"

as jehovah refers to himself as "i am", the first word stands for jehovah. if you turn the order of the three words, we get "[i] am as*) eric" ([] indicate necessary additions for better understanding the context. *) some old handwritten documents also write "like" instead of "as", making it "i am like eric").

in genesis the hero "shilo" is foretold to take the scepter. shilo is described as a man with eyes red of wine. here we have a interesting parallel (whoso readeth, let him understand:), as eric is called "the red".

we also know that ericsson (son of eric) is the worlds leading supplier in telecommunication. how wonderful divine scripture fulfills before our very eyes.

halleluyah! amen!

ah... i accept visa, mastercard, paypal and testaments.

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Do you know of any "baptized" JW's that committed suicide or attempted?

by booker-t in

i remember one of my childhood friends was found dead and the police said he committed suicide.

i just could not believe it because my friend was a "devout" jw almost franatical about it.

now years later since i have seen both sides of the coin i am beginning to wonder if my friend did indeed kill himself.

googlemagoogle

and i know plenty who attempted to commit suicide.

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Do you know of any "baptized" JW's that committed suicide or attempted?

by booker-t in

i remember one of my childhood friends was found dead and the police said he committed suicide.

i just could not believe it because my friend was a "devout" jw almost franatical about it.

now years later since i have seen both sides of the coin i am beginning to wonder if my friend did indeed kill himself.

googlemagoogle

yeah, i knew at least two... they were not even twenty years old. one had really huge psychical problems and one probably was sick of having to live a double life.

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We Live in a Fractal???

by frankiespeakin in

i was thinking lately about the manderbrolt fractal and other fractals as well.

and how every design of nature is able to be reproduced by fractals.

these pictures of the manderbrolt set,, display a remarkable scale that makes you "feel depth",,, with things getting bigger or smaller.

googlemagoogle

i believe we live in a julia set fractal, not in a mandelbrot fractal.