Could you get your husband to read "Crisis of Conscience" by Ray Franz?
If he could read it with an open mind, he would see the hypocricy in the organization and how the Watchtower Society is not the "faithfull and discreet slave".
Hubert
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24My husband is not going to divorce me after all!
by doublelife inso yesterday, my husband gets out of bed and eats breakfast.
then, he comes back over to me and at this point, he doesn't even tell me to get out of bed and get ready for the meeting anymore.
instead, he asked me if i wanted to go.
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J.W.'s and swine flu question
by hubert inmy daughter told me that she refused the swine flu vaccine, even though she is in a risk category and could receive it.. since we know that the watchtower society banned small pox vaccinations for years when it first became available, i am curious to know if the watchtower society is doing this again, with the swine flu vaccine.. has anyone heard of this happening now?
's being discouraged into getting the swine flu vaccine by orders of the w.t.
society?.
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Okay, I am bringing this up again, because I have an update.
My non-jw niece called me today and said her childrens doctor received a batch of swine flu shots, and she was supposed to get one hundred shots, and she got two hundred, so she is spreading the word around to families of her patients that she has these extra swine flu shots.
I was asked to call my daughter and see if my grandaughter could get her shot. She would have to make an appointment. So, after talking with my daughter she decided that since her daughter is going to get the shot in school next Tuesday anyway, she won't bother to make an appointment for her.
So after this conversation, I thought I will call my jw nieces, and see if they got the shots or want the shots for their kids. One of them for sure, has the same doctor as my grandaughter, and she has two young children, not of school age yet, so they are eligible. I called them, and couldn't get a hold of either one, so seeing their jw grandma babysits for them every week, I decided to call her.
I told her the situation, and she told me that she didn't know what position her daughters are taking on the swine flu shots, so I asked her what she meant. (playing dumb).
She started talking about how the medical "community" often comes out with treatments that are more harmful than they are good, and she went into detail about some programs she saw about how people took certain prescribe medications, and ended up dying because of the side effects. I said, "All medications have side effects, but is it better to not take the medications and die, or take them and possibly have side effects? We went back and forth over this issue for a while, and she finally said, she will e-mail them with the information and thanked me for it.I also mentioned that I wouldn't want them to be pressured into not taking the flu shots, and she said she would never do that, anyway. (Which I don't believe). I told her I wanted to let them know about the opportunity to get the shots, because if I didn't and one of their kids contracted the flu and died, I'd feel guilty and responsible. She agreed with my position.
Now...I am starting to think that the elders are "advising" the flock to not take the swine flu shot.
My question....Is there anyone else on this forum who has run into the same situation as I encountered?
I really am starting to think this is wide spread, similar to when they banned the smallpox vaccinations years ago.
Hubert
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My 40th HS Reunion pic
by coffee_black inhad a blast at my 40th hs reunion this past weekend.
helped to organize it...and that was half the fun.
here's a pic of the reunion committee... i'm 3rd from the left standing up.... taken just before everyone else started arriving.
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hubert
Looks like you had a great reunion, Coffee.
After a few beers, that last picture doesn't seem fuzzy anymore.
Reverse effect, I guess. :)
Hubert (hic)
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I did a simple experiment the other day and I got the results today! :D
by Elsewhere ini was popping some "original" orville redenbacher popcorn (popped in a pot, not the microwave) the other day and i started wondering if one could grow corn by planting the popcorn kernels.
the point of the experiment was to determine if the kernels (corn seeds) had somehow been "deactivated" to prevent people from growing their own popcorn.
i got a plastic cup and some potting soil and put a few kernels in... watered... and waited.. .
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hubert
Thank God, it's about popcorn.
With that title, I thought you were going to say you were pregnant, Elsewhere.
Hubert
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Thank God for the E-Apostates and Satan's Internet! Thanks ALL of you!
by cyberjesus inso many of you come here for recovery and some of you that are almost healed keep coming here and post all this articles and your letters and all the research and your experiences and in several post i have read that if only one person reads it and gets out of the borg then the time spent is worth it.. well i am one of those people.
i read this website and jwr and freeminds.org and jwfacts and thanks to all your posts and all the time you spent researching and posting and writting and even debating those jws that come to the board from time to tieme, thanks to your time spent my life or the remaining of it has been recovered.. so thank you all of you!
it doesnt matter what you believe right now.
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Well $hit ! You got more time left than I do!
Maybe you should be consoling me. Ha, ha.
Okay, I guess you have enough time to get your kids out of the org.
Hubert
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Thank God for the E-Apostates and Satan's Internet! Thanks ALL of you!
by cyberjesus inso many of you come here for recovery and some of you that are almost healed keep coming here and post all this articles and your letters and all the research and your experiences and in several post i have read that if only one person reads it and gets out of the borg then the time spent is worth it.. well i am one of those people.
i read this website and jwr and freeminds.org and jwfacts and thanks to all your posts and all the time you spent researching and posting and writting and even debating those jws that come to the board from time to tieme, thanks to your time spent my life or the remaining of it has been recovered.. so thank you all of you!
it doesnt matter what you believe right now.
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Cyber, I don't know your reason for "not much time left", and I am sorry to hear that, and it brings up a thought of how you plan to keep your children out of the Watchtower cult after you are gone?
Have you set something up? Are your children young or adults?
Hubert
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Russian armed forces got new Ultra-High-Tech Vehicle... Serious threat to US!
by Albert Einstein in.
have a nice saturday!.
albert.
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hubert
It also has an anit-matter deflector, too.
Hubert
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J.W.'s and swine flu question
by hubert inmy daughter told me that she refused the swine flu vaccine, even though she is in a risk category and could receive it.. since we know that the watchtower society banned small pox vaccinations for years when it first became available, i am curious to know if the watchtower society is doing this again, with the swine flu vaccine.. has anyone heard of this happening now?
's being discouraged into getting the swine flu vaccine by orders of the w.t.
society?.
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LOL ! DJK.
I haven't seen that e-mail yet. It could have something to do with it. Kind of makes sense, but I was hoping for a written directive from the W.T. headquarters.
Rats!
Hubert
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J.W.'s and swine flu question
by hubert inmy daughter told me that she refused the swine flu vaccine, even though she is in a risk category and could receive it.. since we know that the watchtower society banned small pox vaccinations for years when it first became available, i am curious to know if the watchtower society is doing this again, with the swine flu vaccine.. has anyone heard of this happening now?
's being discouraged into getting the swine flu vaccine by orders of the w.t.
society?.
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hubert
My daughter told me that she refused the swine flu vaccine, even though she is in a risk category and could receive it.
Since we know that the Watchtower Society banned Small Pox vaccinations for years when it first became available, I am curious to know if the Watchtower Society is doing this again, with the Swine Flu vaccine.
Has anyone heard of this happening now? Are J.W.'s being discouraged into getting the Swine Flu vaccine by orders of the W.T. Society?
Thanks.
Hubert
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Are There Certain Posters You Trust Here?
by minimus ini've been on this site for a number of years now.
i don't easily trust just anybody.
having said that, there are a few persons here that know my real identity and i'm comfortable with them.. are there certain posters that you trust here?.
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hubert
Happehanna, this should be in a separate post by itself. It shows you that you CAN overcome practically any disability, or situation, if you put your mind to it.
Thanks for posting this. I went to a concert that was performed by an armless fellow, and seen for myself how one can overcome almost any situation. His name is Tony Melendez. He is a spiritual singer, and plays the guitar with his feet.
Hubert
I can't get a link to come up.
She started talking about how the medical "community" often comes out with treatments that are more harmful than they are good, and she went into detail about some programs she saw about how people took certain prescribe medications, and ended up dying because of the side effects. I said, "All medications have side effects, but is it better to not take the medications and die, or take them and possibly have side effects? We went back and forth over this issue for a while, and she finally said, she will e-mail them with the information and thanked me for it.