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  feng shui

  by peacefulpete in

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  just a brief observation.

  the whole feng shui thing is really going mainstream.

  everywhere everyone is trying to order their world using priciples of the ancient philosophy.

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  bavman

  I haven't really heard much on this feng fellow Pete. I guess you are just way ahead of me on all the latest fads. Lol!
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  Why can't I get over it already?

  by schne_belly in

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  2. friends

  ive had several people whom ive considered friends (jws) basically drop off the face of this earth.

  not once have i really discussed with them my reasons for leaving... actually come to think of it, only one of them has even asked.

  i just responded to her that i still love god, & kept it short and simple.

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  bavman

  With the way you are feeling right now it sounds like you need to simply think about taking care of yourself. Perhaps in the future an opportunity will come up to talk with your former friends. They are that though...former friends. Focus on those who really are true friends and love you. By the way if you and your husband are ever down in the Milwaukee area send me a pm. I would love to meet you both. Take care!

  Bav
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  May the Shunning Commence...........

  by whyamihere in

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  the shunning has begun.......... i haven't talked with my mother who is less than 5 minutes from me, in almost a month.

  not unusual though.

  anyway, i went to my dad's place during christmas.

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  bavman

  Good for you sister!
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  Hint of disillusionment among bethelites regarding downsizing?

  by watch the tower in

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  2. beliefs

  here is an email i got from a jw friend regarding the downsizing.. can you sense the uneasiness in the last part of the message?.

  "bros vandewall, jaracz, pierce and weaver gave a talk.

  to the bethelites after the watchtower study monday.

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  bavman

  I personally am very happy to hear this as I have a ten year old boy who goes to meetings with his mom. Hopefully now there won't be much calling for him to go to bethel.
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  Something I wonder.......

  by DaveNwisconsin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a month ago my mother died.

  she had been a witness for 40 years.

  when she was sick she got me wondering if all the witnesses think that this system will come to an end in there lifetime and they won't have to go thru death?

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  bavman

  I was told when I was a boy I would never have to worry about dying. I never even really thought I would have to see my parents die. I agree with "JH". The Witnesses still talk about the end being close however they are putting more and more trust in the resurrection as their hope and not really trusting they won't die at all. They feel as long as they are in good standing in "Jehovers org." they are essentially "saved".
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  Brand New Blood Card meeting - Your Blood will run cold.

  by hamsterbait in

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  2. friends

  i first noticed that no scriptural discussion of the choice is made, so it all appears to be solely the decision of the signatory.. when choosing alternatives of treatment, the witless merely initials his choice under clauses 3 and 4. since this simply indicates choice, full signature and witness are not required.. .

  now clause 6:.

  "i consent to my medical records ands the details of my condition being shared with the emergency contact below (cong secretary recommended) and/or with member(s) of the hospital liaison committee for jehovah's witnesses.. .

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  bavman

  oh...and the statute of limitations thing...what's that all about?
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  Brand New Blood Card meeting - Your Blood will run cold.

  by hamsterbait in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i first noticed that no scriptural discussion of the choice is made, so it all appears to be solely the decision of the signatory.. when choosing alternatives of treatment, the witless merely initials his choice under clauses 3 and 4. since this simply indicates choice, full signature and witness are not required.. .

  now clause 6:.

  "i consent to my medical records ands the details of my condition being shared with the emergency contact below (cong secretary recommended) and/or with member(s) of the hospital liaison committee for jehovah's witnesses.. .

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  bavman

  A baptized teenage boy gets infected tendinitis from compulsive self- abuse with porn. Was it with greed? Although he put his life on the line by signing the blood card, it is no compensation. He is DF (Remember the Statute of Limitation on Serious Sins only applies to Elders and MS, so they won't feel compelled to be merciful in this case.)

  ah...is this possible? I mean first of all the tendinitis caused in this way and second the df-ing for greedily abusing oneself? (don't read too much into my asking this now, I'm simply curious...lol.)
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  JWs and paganism

  by Super_Becka in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ok guys, i've been contemplating the world of the jws - which isn't an especially good idea because the more you think about it, the less sense it makes - and the whole "we don't do anything pagan" thing is really getting to me, just because it's so hypocritical.. so what i'm looking for is this - a list of any and all pagan practices that are just fine, according to wts rules and regulations.

  anything big or small that's not banned by the wts but clearly has pagan origins.. and to make myself clear, i'm not looking to argue, i'm not looking to irritate any of the jws we have lurking around here (sweetscholar comes to mind), i'm just looking for a list, plain and simple.. let me start:.

  ) windchimes.

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  bavman

  Ties, Wedding rings...
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  Living proof: Elders are not spirit appointed

  by IP_SEC in

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  2. beliefs

  witnesses say that elders are appointed by holy spirit.

  the bible is the product of hs and when the body prays and uses the bibles qualifications for older men in the context of the perspective candidate hs is involved in his approval or disapproval.

  then when the co passes the recommendation on the gb (or who ever actually makes the decision) these spirit appointed men are influenced by hs.. all well and good, the only problem is, it does not work.

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  bavman

  Ah yes IP SEC...but Jehovah did eventually straighten out the situation and get rid of you didn't he?.....(playing the good JW role)
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  Orwell, 1984, and the Watchtower

  by RichieRich in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so my english class just got handed (yesterday) 1984, by george orwell.

  its a book i've been wanting to read for a long time, but haven't been able to (i read non stop for english class).. so i was really excited when i got the book.

  from what i've heard about it, it seemed like it would be really pertinent for people in the watchtower.. all i can say is wow.

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  bavman

  I know Winston Smith personally...he IS pretty sneaky!