This brought tears to my eyes...what great friends! Happy Unbirthday to you,
AJ
my former colleagues at the clinic i used to work at took me out for lunch today.
what i didn't know was that they'd arranged a "birthday" party for me.
although my birthday isn't until june they wanted to celebrate the 25 birthdays i've missed while a jw.
This brought tears to my eyes...what great friends! Happy Unbirthday to you,
AJ
for those of you who will be disgusted that i even attended the meeting, let alone allow my son to give his first public talk tonight, please, spare me the shouting messages.
i take full responsibility for what i experienced this evening.
yet, i feel the need to share this experience that has me enraged.
FMW: Good luck with your situation. How about getting your son his own Bible, a student bible, Walmart has excellent inexpensive ones...or ask at any church, they'd be glad to help you out.
Show him right away the false words in the NWT, how they have changed their words to reflect what they want it to say.
You don't need to do much, just tell him you don't want him getting involved with anything that teaches lies....and give him a little
understanding of what a cult is, on a level that he can understand. (They use ONLy their own teachings; they pull people away from family by
giving up celebrations...that is enough).
I would have been totally infuriated at the KH, too. But you must take the reins and teach hiim the reasons why he shouldn't study anymore with them.
Best to you, AJ.
what a depressing birthday for me.
this is the longest i have ever been single(6 months and lots of self-loving was necessary to make it this long)
and so although i did not want to wake up this morning.
Lots and Lots of Positive, Happy Birthday Wishes to you! I wish you were nearby, I would take you out for a birthday treat just like my own daughters! And....someday...you will probably have the opportunity to do just that for one of your own children! Yay! Stay positive, you are growing happier and healthier by being on this board....
The best to you,
AuntieJ
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this is a new thread started from the one my husband left yesterday............ hi everyone,this is gringojjs wife.i thankyou all for your comments and your help,really makes me feel better about my situation especially since i see that most of what im going through alot of you have been through the exact same thing.it makes me realize im not the only one and that i can get through this tough time like most of you have.i can really identify with the poster who made the comments about being scared after leaving,not realizing if it was the right decision or not.i am really scared of armagedon,of invisible wicked forces the wts teaches you to turn away from,just like the poster i watched a horror film a couple nights ago and it was about demonism,i was extremely scared i was going to be bothered by the demons for getting involved in watching those kinds of movies.its ridiculus how scared i was,just believing in satan and his demons,and what they could or could not do.something my husband doesnt really understand because he doesnt believe in satan or jehovah or a god at all,but when you do believe its scary to think you are upseting god or on the side of satan.i dont know where i am at right now i do know that im confused,the witnesses coming to the door,halloween coming up......which btw i celebrated last year but my concience is really doing me in this time.........i dont know what to do with the kids !
do they celebrate do they not?i dont know, when the time comes mabe i will but i know one thing i have to make a choice, for my husbands sake,for my sanity,and for our children.i am glad i have people to share my pain and suffering with,my mother says i dont want to suffer at all because im afraid of losing my husband if i become baptized,she says thats what you have to do for the truth....suffer....im not going to be happy suffering through life and for what?mabe nothing.i am not afraid of losing my husband i am afraid of dissapointing my mom but im not going to stay in a religon that makes me totally screwed up in the head.i used to have panic attacks when i was attending meetings i havent had one since not attending,i still have exterme anxiety from worry and fear but no panic attacks....hm....go figure!last thing,the other day a born again christian approched me by my local post office and asked me if i was interested in attending his church.i simply told him no thankyou my children are already screwed up enough from the jws.
Honey if you are open to therapy, I strongly suggest it. My 2 daughters have dealt with depression in their young lives and both did so well with therapy. It's just like getting help for any other medical condition....why put up with the pain when there are ways to help make it feel "all better"?
You and your husband sound like a great couple; I don't post here much, or know any of the people here, really, but I came here to learn about my JW relatives....my nephew and niece. When they would not come into the church where their own father's (my brother) funeral service was, it opened my eyes and I wanted to learn more about the JW teachings. I was so sad to find out how heavy they laden the young ones with misguided teachings. Well...not to ramble on, but I do encourage you to seek a therapist to help you through this, I feel you will only grow from it.
Peace,
AuntieJ
i am missing myrna again.
this time of year she made sure we all got together.
i am tearing up again in thankfulness.. darn that date snuck up on my calendar, and i was not prepared.
Good for you, it is so healthy to be open about our feelings and not carry the baggage
of our emotions. Blessings to you and yours,
AJ
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this is a new thread started from the one my husband left yesterday............ hi everyone,this is gringojjs wife.i thankyou all for your comments and your help,really makes me feel better about my situation especially since i see that most of what im going through alot of you have been through the exact same thing.it makes me realize im not the only one and that i can get through this tough time like most of you have.i can really identify with the poster who made the comments about being scared after leaving,not realizing if it was the right decision or not.i am really scared of armagedon,of invisible wicked forces the wts teaches you to turn away from,just like the poster i watched a horror film a couple nights ago and it was about demonism,i was extremely scared i was going to be bothered by the demons for getting involved in watching those kinds of movies.its ridiculus how scared i was,just believing in satan and his demons,and what they could or could not do.something my husband doesnt really understand because he doesnt believe in satan or jehovah or a god at all,but when you do believe its scary to think you are upseting god or on the side of satan.i dont know where i am at right now i do know that im confused,the witnesses coming to the door,halloween coming up......which btw i celebrated last year but my concience is really doing me in this time.........i dont know what to do with the kids !
do they celebrate do they not?i dont know, when the time comes mabe i will but i know one thing i have to make a choice, for my husbands sake,for my sanity,and for our children.i am glad i have people to share my pain and suffering with,my mother says i dont want to suffer at all because im afraid of losing my husband if i become baptized,she says thats what you have to do for the truth....suffer....im not going to be happy suffering through life and for what?mabe nothing.i am not afraid of losing my husband i am afraid of dissapointing my mom but im not going to stay in a religon that makes me totally screwed up in the head.i used to have panic attacks when i was attending meetings i havent had one since not attending,i still have exterme anxiety from worry and fear but no panic attacks....hm....go figure!last thing,the other day a born again christian approched me by my local post office and asked me if i was interested in attending his church.i simply told him no thankyou my children are already screwed up enough from the jws.
One more important thing: You have a hubby who loves you so much he has spent hours of time on this board trying to learn how to communicate with you for the betterment of your marriage and family. How wonderful is that...and how blessed you are. Give him a special hug today and thank him for caring so much.
Auntie
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this is a new thread started from the one my husband left yesterday............ hi everyone,this is gringojjs wife.i thankyou all for your comments and your help,really makes me feel better about my situation especially since i see that most of what im going through alot of you have been through the exact same thing.it makes me realize im not the only one and that i can get through this tough time like most of you have.i can really identify with the poster who made the comments about being scared after leaving,not realizing if it was the right decision or not.i am really scared of armagedon,of invisible wicked forces the wts teaches you to turn away from,just like the poster i watched a horror film a couple nights ago and it was about demonism,i was extremely scared i was going to be bothered by the demons for getting involved in watching those kinds of movies.its ridiculus how scared i was,just believing in satan and his demons,and what they could or could not do.something my husband doesnt really understand because he doesnt believe in satan or jehovah or a god at all,but when you do believe its scary to think you are upseting god or on the side of satan.i dont know where i am at right now i do know that im confused,the witnesses coming to the door,halloween coming up......which btw i celebrated last year but my concience is really doing me in this time.........i dont know what to do with the kids !
do they celebrate do they not?i dont know, when the time comes mabe i will but i know one thing i have to make a choice, for my husbands sake,for my sanity,and for our children.i am glad i have people to share my pain and suffering with,my mother says i dont want to suffer at all because im afraid of losing my husband if i become baptized,she says thats what you have to do for the truth....suffer....im not going to be happy suffering through life and for what?mabe nothing.i am not afraid of losing my husband i am afraid of dissapointing my mom but im not going to stay in a religon that makes me totally screwed up in the head.i used to have panic attacks when i was attending meetings i havent had one since not attending,i still have exterme anxiety from worry and fear but no panic attacks....hm....go figure!last thing,the other day a born again christian approched me by my local post office and asked me if i was interested in attending his church.i simply told him no thankyou my children are already screwed up enough from the jws.
Welcome, I wish you well in your journey out. My advice, simply:
Baby steps, and big, slow deep breaths. Be easy on yourself first and
foremost.
Peace,
AuntieJane
the gift of scripture
"the catholic bishops of england, wales and scotland are warning their five million worshippers, as well as any others drawn to the study of scripture, that they should not expect total accuracy from the bible.".
"but the first 11 chapters of genesis, in which two different and at times conflicting stories of creation are told, are among those that this countrys catholic bishops insist cannot be historical.
As far as evolution, the CC teaches that as long as one believes in a Creator, it doesn't matter if we want to believe there was an actual Adam and Eve, or a monkey, or a single cell. But that we accept the beginning of life as coming from God.
lately,i haven't been as concerned with my jw past.it will always affect me,and this website has changed my life,for the better.i guess i know that thetre will always be people that will believe in religious bullcrap.thats thier problem.i am proud that i didn't drink the kool-aid{i say to people now"don't drink the kool-aid"}i have not posted as much lately,and feel less concerned about the whole situation,which is a good thing.. .
cheers to all you who didn't drink the kool aid,and those who stopped drinking it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1.
thanks ,stp
Hi stopthepain! Sounds to me like you are doing good. I don't know why so many replies are dissing you here ....I get where you are coming from. 'drinking the koolaid' isn't a direct hit on the victims at Jonestown, as terrible as that was. It is your way of saying that you did partake of the cult thinking, like so many others, you were sucked in by the sweet offerings they gave. Keep on making that distance from your past, although it will remain a part of you, it will grow more shadowed and less important as time goes on.
Peace,
AuntieJane
ya know, it's odd how the "big" things just sometimes seem to bounce off your forehead, rather like seeing the trees instead of the forest.
well, fwiw, that was the state of mind (if you can call it that) i was in, after less than a year at bethel.
i was reassigned to the night-shift janitorial crew.
Onacruse, thank you for sharing your story. I wish you well on the path of continued healing.
It is so good that you came here and took the time to journal your history. I, like others, would encourage
you to consider writing a book. Seriously. You are a gifted writer and this type of personal story should
get lots of attention!
Shalom,
AuntieJ