Wow. That would explain why they sent me a pm with personal information on David Jay. I thought it was weird but was glad to hear that he was doing well. If he's pretending things like this it makes me wonder how well he's really doing. I like busting liars as much as the next person, but this is also sad if true.
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Nephew’s JW Fiancée Begins Conversion to Judaism Due to Passover Date
by Rabbi Midge init’s been a while since i posted, but for those who remember, i came on here to get some information about jehovah’s witnesses because i have a nephew who was getting engaged to a girl who was a jehovah’s witness and, along with some other sites, i was recommended this one.. since then we’ve been busy with passover and jehovah’s witnesses have had something they call the memorial of christ’s death (i believe i have that right).
this clashing of the two observances apparently did more for this girl than anything else i ever saw in our months of conversations with her.. respectfully, jews do not proselytize.
these are people who, of their own desire, “join the tribe” after some years of study and practice--something this girl has just begun to do.
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Fading with Confidence
by gone for good inabandoning a damaging cult is not a crime, in fact it might be viewed as a moral imperative given the levels of abuse awaiting those surrendering to its teachings and worse –its "ecclesiastic authority".. it has always seemed counter productive to inform potential enemies when your life´s goals now conflict with their rigid agendas.
disassociation letters and manifestos may be cathartic in the writing, but the outcome is a 100% certainty because of the inflexibility and lack of caring by the very group it is delivered to.. .
"fading" from under "high control" seems an oxymoronic risk at best, and currently faders walk on eggshells and look over their shoulders for years during and after the attempt - fearful that the price of their freedom will be the destruction of their friendships and family ties.. perhaps a peculiar additional preparation to a fade can reverse the balance of power – and high control cults are all about power.. .. bear in mind: - .
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dubstepped
They will do what they want. People keep making things up to try to feel powerful in the situation. If you want to fade, just do it knowing the repercussions. If you want to disassociate, the same applies. If being disfellowshipped is your thing, do that. These made up workarounds are typically the product of desperation and ego, trying to control others. Just do you. If you think threatening with lawsuits will work, go for it, just know that you likely have little true legal recourse and they may cower or may call you on it.
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advice please/data protection
by Phoebe ini have just received an email from an elder's wife regarding the new data protection laws.
between the lines it sounds like she has been asked to contact me.. she says they 'don't want to leave me out' so they want me to fill out the form as 'i'm still part of the congregation'.
also, my blood card needs updating, apparently.. the elder in charge will be in contact.. obviously, i'm not doing either, but what do i do?
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I always like an "I'm good, thanks". I just repeat it over and over. No, is a complete sentence and you can go with that, and I've recommended that before. If it doesn't feel good or you're worried about how they'll take it, an "I'm good, thanks" repeated over and over again seems less confrontational than a simple NO. But we're worried about you..........I'm good, thanks. Well, you know that Jehovah is directing the organization and they need our information to protect us........I'm good, thanks. I'll have Brother Smith contact you to get that from you.........I'm good, thanks. Tony Morris just died.........I'm good, thanks. You just won the lottery!............I'm good, thanks. See, it works as a yes, as a no, as a celebration that the world is short one more horrible man or that I hit it big financially. I'm good, thanks.
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EXJW Fifth Interviews Jason Wynne - Founder of AvoidJW.org
by Wakanda inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bahseeaoof8.
simply fabulous.
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dubstepped
That was interesting. I enjoyed hearing how the Borg went after him for all of these things that weren't under his control, you know, like how the cult keeps the GB one step removed. Good for him and screw them.
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EXJW Fifth Interviews Jason Wynne - Founder of AvoidJW.org
by Wakanda inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bahseeaoof8.
simply fabulous.
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Thanks! I'll check it out.
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Are you a woman? Do you know one?
by dubstepped inif you can answer yes to either question, you should consider listening to the latest episode of "shunned".
in it, brenda tells her story inside the flds cult, a story of women and what they go through.
this is happening right here in the united states.
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@Nathan - Well then, here's your chance to change that. Listen to the podcast and you'll finally feel like you know one. ;)
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interview with an apostate- morpheus
by _Morpheus inwhen i saw simons thread and the "interview" series of threads that came from it i really enjoyed reading the life stories of those that shared.
a bump for newer people seems like a good idea and i figured i would add mine as well.
again, thanks to simon for the concept of a guided interview thread and the template.. tell us a little about yourself and your family.. hmmm... easy question, hard answer.
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Nice! I forgot about those posts. Haven't seen one in a long time.
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Are you a woman? Do you know one?
by dubstepped inif you can answer yes to either question, you should consider listening to the latest episode of "shunned".
in it, brenda tells her story inside the flds cult, a story of women and what they go through.
this is happening right here in the united states.
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dubstepped
Like most things, you don't know what you don't know.
Someone on reddit sent me pics of their basketball goals without hoops. Just a pole and backboard. Fun was outlawed at a point too.
Apparently Jeffs being in prison is the fault of the people too. If they had the faith that they should have then he would be out. Shame on them.
I've never been out west. It would be so creepy now to see it in person.
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Are you a woman? Do you know one?
by dubstepped inif you can answer yes to either question, you should consider listening to the latest episode of "shunned".
in it, brenda tells her story inside the flds cult, a story of women and what they go through.
this is happening right here in the united states.
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@TD - When my wife had her wisdom teeth extracted last year she wanted to binge watch some shows together and one that she picked out was Handmaid's Tale. So we watched it, and honestly I had to take breaks after each one because they were so bleak and just awful. Then I met Brenda, and found out that the show could have been based, in part, on what it was like for women in the FLDS. It is about the worst thing for women that I've come across. They are simply slaves and baby making machines. I'm amazed that she was able to escape and stand up for herself in that cult. Now Warren Jeffs has decreed from prison that nobody can have sex in the cult, period. He grew this sex crazed weird culture where abuse is rampant and then shut off the ability for the adult men and women to have sex, so the women can't bear children anymore which is their way to heaven or whatever, and it is rumored that the men, who have been known to abuse girls anyway, have taken to that even more. It's just so grim. -
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Wealth, Poverty, and Morality
by SecondRateMind ini am interested in the approach this forum takes to money.
apart from sex, (which i am quite relaxed about) it seems to me that wealth is the surest divider between those who are moral, and those who are not.. it seems jesus thought so, also.
luke 16:19-31 kjv describes well enough his dusty attitude to the rich who do not succour the poor.. and this world has many poor: so many, it might seem that we can do nothing about it, and twist his words; 'the poor ye shall have always with you, but me, ye shall not have always.
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Why are you guys still trying to talk sense into someone that believes in fairy tales as the basis for this philosophy that defies all reality? SRM isn't here to find out your views on money like he said from the jump, he's here to sell an idea that he's doing an awful job of selling, and he clearly doesn't care to face realities that have been presented. Either he's trolling and having fun with this, or he's just one of those people that believes in belief, and there's no openness to facts in opposition of that belief. It's like trying to reason with a closed minded JW. A waste of time. He can only see his point of view and little else.
Peace. Good luck SRM.