Not from my experience. I was a born-in. Baptism is a time of excitement for all who are involved. It is hard to take pics because everyone is standing around trying to see the event. I would imagine they were even more excited to see you there witnessing his baptism and was done without malicious intent. Just my thoughts...
confuzzlediam
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Questions about Non JWs attending a JW baptism
by TTWSYF ini attended my brother and sister in laws' baptism at a kingdom hall a number of years ago.
i was [am] not a jw so when i arrived i was bombarded with attention from the flock to which i politely stated that i was there to see my brother and his wife.
it seemed like the distraction was intentional.
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Dating After Leaving?
by Garrett inhey guys,.
this is going to be a topic of a different nature.
so, while i am not looking to date at the current moment since i'm still trying to figure out who i am and what i want life, i do want to start dating in the near future.. my issue is that i've been in for almost all my life and it's left a big hole when it comes to my romantic life.. i was wondering, after leaving, did any of you date?
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confuzzlediam
Marmot...I also met my boyfriend via online dating. We knew each other from attending the same hall about 6-10 years ago. Before he moved to the area, his family attended my hall where my sis and one of his sis's were friends as well as our parents. He actually rented the house that I am currently living in, that I rent from my parents.
We are both disfellowshipped, and do not attend meetings. I had a small crush on him when we were both going to the same hall, but he was married and I was as well, so he never knew that I thought he was hot!! LOL Fast forward to last summer when I saw him on this online dating service and messaged him. We met up that night and have been dating now for almost 9 months. I think he is a keeper!
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Worst Memorial Talk Ever!
by The Searcher ini honestly have never heard such claptrap being delivered in a memorial talk.. the speaker repeatedly put down the way other religions administered the bread & wine, and claimed that witnesses do it exactly as the bible describes.
oh yeah????.
he forgot to mention - when reading aloud 1 corinthians 11:25 - that after passing the bread, a full meal was to be shared, before the wine was passed around!
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confuzzlediam
I was there in body only last night. My sis saved my boyfriend and I seats in the back row, end of the row. We pretty much sat and talked the entire time. When we were not chatting, I was not listening or at least tried not to listen. All I heard was wah wah, wah wah wah wah, with a little of who was to partake, who was not to partake and how many were in attendance last year. He also went on to say how that number should be higher this year, not that the number in attendance was important...as they counted each and every person in attendance.
The thing that bothered me most was that one of the elders who helped pass the bread and wine was someone that my x and I were in business with about 5 years ago. We parted ways when we learned that he was embezzling from our company by taking product from our company, writing up the sales on his company invoices and keeping the money for the sale, for his business. The office manager was asked by him to keep those invoices from us, in which she promptly told us what he was asking her to do. She was also a witness. The matter was taken up with the elders in which he lied of course by saying that he wasn't doing it, or didn't mean to do it. They believed him and he was never removed as an elder. It was very difficult for me to stomach the fact that he was held in such a high position after doing what he did. While I was wrongfully disfellowshipped for being a "drunkard"! Karma is a biotch!
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Worst Memorial Talk Ever!
by The Searcher ini honestly have never heard such claptrap being delivered in a memorial talk.. the speaker repeatedly put down the way other religions administered the bread & wine, and claimed that witnesses do it exactly as the bible describes.
oh yeah????.
he forgot to mention - when reading aloud 1 corinthians 11:25 - that after passing the bread, a full meal was to be shared, before the wine was passed around!
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confuzzlediam
Just found out I'm going with my boyfriend. Both of us are disfellowshipped. His mom asked if he was going, which he completely forgot about. SO I thought I was going to get out of going this year. He just asked if I would be his date tonight. LOL I'm sick to my stomach... I don't WANT to go, but feel like I should be supportive of him. I guess the upside to it all is that we won't be expected to talk to anyone before or after, so we can run out the door straight after it is over. UGHHHH
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I have a serious problem
by My Name is of No Consequence ini have a serious problem that i cannot solve on my own.
i was born-in but am only in by a thread at this point.
i quit the tms a few weeks ago and wrote a post on it.
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confuzzlediam
I would say that you certainly have the right to have strong feelings about this. You should NOT be left out of the loop on any of this!! I don't have any good suggestions as to what to do, other than keep communicating your feelings with your wife and this brother. MAYBE if they are not receptive, carefully talk to your son about your feelings and see if he will help keep you aware of what's going on. just a thought...sorry you are having to go through this -
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If The Witnesses Try To Get You Back To Jehovah...How Will You Respond!
by minimus ini am most curious.
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confuzzlediam
I did not leave Jehovah on my own accord. I was kicked out. I had no choice. No apologies, no sympathy. Just booted. I won't go back to Jehovah...or to the org. End of story. (I may be a little bitter still! lol) -
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My father is a f*****g a*****e
by Butyoucanneverleave inthis is my first post.
i just had to get that statement off of my chest!
my father is one cold hearted judge mental, hypocritical, piece of s**t. i hate this religion and what it has done to my family!
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confuzzlediam
Welcome!! SO glad you have decided to join and post! This is a great place to visit. I mostly read the posts, but do add my two cents when I have something to add. I was wrongly df'd 5 years ago and have been coming on here on and off since then and have found much enlightenment and encouragement from those who post. My family is still "in", but not really. My soon to be x's family, now that's a different story. I was pressured for 4 years to get reinstated, so his family would invite us to social gatherings. I understand perfectly the hold that this cult has on their followers...sad! -
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Shutting down the Judicial Committee "invite".
by kairos injudicial committee invitation comes, with be there or be square consequences.. ( come or we will df you ).
what are the sure fire, tested and true tactics that will keep the elders off your back?
( for good ).
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confuzzlediam
My husband (at the time) and I were asked to meet with the elders for an "interview" which was to ask us about what happened at a social gathering that about 20 of us attended a month or more prior. They asked me to leave the room so they could question my husband, then invited me back into the room so they could question me. After they talked to me and I opened my mouth a bit too much, they dismissed us to a different room. When they asked us back into the room, there was a 3rd elder. They had an elder in waiting, just in case a judicial committee would be needed. By the end of the night, both my husband and I knew I would be disfellowshipped. A week later we met with them again when they informed me I was disfellowshipped.
There was NO official judicial committee invite for me. They set up what I like to call an impromptu judicial committee meeting, right there on the spot. They were prepared BEFORE our interview for one or both of us to require one. When all was said and done, 6 from our group were publicly reproved and 4 were disfellowshipped. I was the only one in the group who appealed the decision, only to be turned down. They lessened my offense, but stuck with the disfellowshipping.
A blessing in disguise. That was 5 years ago in January. I filed for divorce 4 1/2 years after I was disfellowshipped (last June). I believe that while my marriage was falling apart, being disfellowshipped was the icing on the cake. My husband could not understand why I did not want to go back, although I tried several times to appease him and his family. The last time I attempted to return to get reinstated, I had to go on anti-depressant meds and anti-anxiety meds as well, just to attend meetings. That was a little over a year ago. Crazy thing is he is no longer going to meetings...has not been disfellowshipped, just stopped going.
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JW going to prestigious university
by ivanatahan ini've been debating this, and my mother (the spiritual head of my family, she even controls my father spiritually, who is an elder) doesn't seem to be starkly against me going to a prestigious university.
in fact, i've been going over my chances, and i'd say i have a pretty decent chance of going to my dream university, oxford university, to study philosophy, politics, and economics.
naturally i wouldn't tell my mother about me wanting to take the three most hated subjects of jws at a university that would bring me into bad relations with "spiritually sound jws".. do you guys know any ex-jw or knowledgeable jw who knows ttatt that went to a randall group or ivy league school?
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confuzzlediam
I am 44 and last summer I finally got my GED and started taking college classes at the local community college. I was DF'd 5 years ago and filed for divorce last June from a 25 year marriage. I had always wanted to go back to school, but was busy being a stay at home mom for 20 of the 25 years. When I left, I knew what I needed to do and wish I had done so much earlier in life.
I am in my 3rd quarter and I am BLOWN away by what I have learned so far!! This quarter I am taking 4 classes, one of which is a philosophy class called Critical Reasoning, and another is a US Government class. The critical reasoning class is SO insightful, although I do end up with a major headache after class and while doing the homework (which is a TON). Because I was raised as a JW, I never knew much about how our government ran. SO this class will also be a good one for me.
Another class that my community college offers is Comparative Religion, one that my philosophy teacher also teaches. I WILL be taking that in the fall!! Can't wait to dig into all of the different religious teachings!
If you have the opportunity to go to Oxford, I would say that would be an opportunity of a lifetime...in my opinion. Learning more than what the org teaches is life changing. But I would certainly say that is a change for the better!! Good luck!!!!
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Inactive ones are not JWs
by gone for good inyears ago, the insinuation was often presented, that those who were inactive were actually not witnesses at all.
the point being made was that ''...winesses is a verb, not a noun...''.
i know there were published assertions to this end in the older books and magazines, with possibly even quotes from the likes of rutherford or knorr ,.
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confuzzlediam
Millie201 - that is a GREAT question! My guess would be because one dedicates their life (via baptism) to God, so they would not be able to take that away, just our privileges in the organization.