Posts by sebastien

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nightmares

i grew up having nightmares about armageddon, satan and, most of all jehovah.

i am 25 now and i still get nightmares, and they're always about these same things.

i was wondering if my brain is overactive, or if other people on this site get nightmares about things they learned as a witness.

so let me get something straight. when you are around your friends and family, you go along with what they say, do what they do, and talk how they talk, and when you are secretly on this website, you do the same thing with the people here? i will take your messages at face-value and write my reply with the idea that you do not believe the jehovahs witness religion is "correct". and we all know about saving face, but i dont think one person on this website, or anywhere on the planet has ever regretted being honest with loved ones about what is right in their heart of hearts. by your posts on this website, you seem to have no love at all for the religion of jehovahs witnesses. not what they teach, not what they do, and not those who stand up for the religion because they believe the filth. a double-life is never healthy, whether you are a witness pretending not to be, or a non-witness pretending to be. especially since one of the main symptoms of insecurity, low self esteem and depression includes the need for attention/ the need for acceptance. the height of this lack of emotional health (i will bet was not helped by being a jehovahs witness) can be seen in people who are living a "double-life".

i am sorry if it seems as if i am making assumptions about you or your personality, and i hope i am wrong, but some of the things you say in your messages remind me of the things my little brother would have said when he was going through this stuff. and it wasnt happy times. the only advice i think anyone can give is to stand up for what you believe in. that might not mean preaching to your witness friends or family about your beliefs, or lack-of belief in their teachings. that might not mean apostacising or fighting with them all the time. but at least in your mind and in their eyes, you can make a stand. you can do this easily, just by not attending. if/when they bother you about it, tell them straight up - "i dont believe in this" or whatever you are feeling. the conversation that will result in your standing up for yourself will then be like a light turning on in your head, either helping you to go where you belong, or helping you to stay away where you belong. (one recommendation i can make, though would be to not carry the conversation to the point of arguing with a group of elders. it does no good, at least for their sakes, assuming you have a brotherly love fore them. and it wastes a lot of time. if anything, talking one-on-one with any of them would do more good. and get you LESS disfellowshipped. leave, but leave peacfully and quietly.)

everyone wants to be understood by the people they love and who they feel love them. the days/months/years you spend "on the fence" are not completely wasted years, but they dont do much good for the progress in the rest of your life, so the sooner you are clear with the people you love, the sooner you can move ahead. and if you can get off the fence in a quiet and unassuming fashion, so as not to generate enough fear in your family's minds, you probably will not even be disfellowshipped. carrying on in your respect for them, while at the same time building a respect for yourself will help you and everyone who comes in contact with you. mental and emotional health can be ours! and brothers, isn't that a reward in itself?

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signs that you may be apostate, part 1

by in a new york bethel minute in

if you went to an assembly as one of the bad people who carry apostate signs, what would your sign say?.

pretend you had a bag on your head, and nobody would ever recognize you.... i think mine would say, .

"young people ask... very carefully, so as not to arouse suspicion that they might be apostate"

sebastien

i would have someone carry a picket sign with just the exact title of their convention on it. since we arent allowed to read apostate propoganda, and since we equate picket signs with apostates, it would be rare to see anyone even reading the sign!, most having their heads turned in disgust and/or fear.

i guess my main hope would be that some red-neck with implosive rage symptoms would be so filled with anger at the sight of an "apostate" that he would lay a beating on my friend with the bag over his head and the title of the district assembly on his sign, before he even read what was on the sign. i would be in a bush or some ash and sack-cloth taking high-definition pictures of the event, securing the disfellowshiping of this "St. Peter" of brothers, for the de-facing of jehovahs witnesses own propaganda.

just kidding

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I HAVE A POOL!!!!

by tazmanian russel in

growing up as a jdub had a lot of annoying things involed with it..one of my favs was..haveing a pool!!!

this is what went through every familys mind in my hall...well well ..the so and so family have a pool and its hot out and we having nothing to do ...soooo lets go swimin!....um mommy the smiths r in our back yard again ..and now they r swimming ...oh dont worry , go get them a towl from the pool house..this is how it started , then it got worse and worse...we are thirsty wah..we want to play with the video games ..what are we a community centre all of a sudden...oh oh now they r getting really nervey..we are hungry!!!

well i guess u might as well stay for supper ...do u have enough?

sebastien

oh man, that comment about satan loving "to be continueds...." HAHAHAHA funny... my brother and i and new friend are always making stuff up like that, we could be related practically! or maybe we are

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Animals in the New System

by Bulldog in

has there been previous discussions on the nature of animals in the new system?

most people seem to think that the animals will suddenly become completely different than they are today.

lions and tigers will eat hay, not meat, etc, but if you think about animal natures and the perfect system that exists in the animal food chain, it doesn't make sense.. what would a horse be if it had no fear of predators?

sebastien

the carnivor animals will feed for years upon the carcasses of the punished and killed at armagedon. this will ween them off of the instinct to "prey", or be predators. then as the years go by and new young lions are hatched, the older lions will have nothing to teach the younger lions, due to years of laziness. animals will still be mortal, so the job of these carnivors will change from hunter to scavenger, cleaning the earth of new dead animals, whales, and birds, not to mention the scores of newly rebelious robots/drones/borgs dying each year by means of "godly" execution.

you seem to forget that these animals will NEVER have to stop eating nutritious meat, its just a matter of evolving from the need to hunt, to that of being fed daily from above. holy! and dont forget how much stinking rotting meat these carnivours will get to feed on at the end of the thousand year reign! half the bloody planet! hahahaha by then lions and such will have developed opposible thumbs, and learn to build freezers so that they can refrigerate all the corpses, stockpiling food for many, many years in case of times when rebelion is rare.

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