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  Do You Realize How Much Being a Witness Has Hindered You?

  by minimus in

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  the truth is------- we have lost out on soooooo much, simply because we were witnesses.

  it might b like almost starting all over again, for some of us.

  what hits you as to what you could've had or have outrightly lost??

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  cyber-sista

  Wanted more children, but only had one..Not that is was a bad thing, as it turned out to be good in many ways, but I was restricting my family size to more fully serve the Org and not because of my needs or wants...there were many other things i gave up in life--music, art, education, friendships that could've been..

  But if there is an upside to all of this, I did learn some big lessons in the end. I now cherish my friends and family and I have learned the meaning of unconditional love--I may not have seen this so clearly if not for my time served in the Org.
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  Elders performing marriages

  by LovesDubs in

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  can elders perform marriage ceremonies outside of the hall?

  can they use the jw outline?

  what rules must they follow?

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  cyber-sista

  Elsewhere--JW women are ministers too, but never heard of one of them performing a ceremony
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  This site has been the most incredible help to me-UNTIL TODAY

  by ohiocowboy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  reading through some of the recent posts, ie; the topic of lazarus and the gay issue, i was flabbergasted at what i was reading.

  i can't believe-well maybe i can, that some people on this site are calling gay people "faggots", and telling that person that they are going to get "what sodom and gomorrah got".. this site has been a godsend to me, and have been telling my friends how nice it is to be in with a group of people who can relate to my life, my feelings, my insecurities, and my fears relating to the org.

  and not being a part of it anymore.

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  cyber-sista

  I think the people who are prejudiced against gay people - whether on this site or not - have serious issues. I wouldn't classify the whole site as anti gay or anything like that....some of us are actually open minded....most of us actually.

  Ohio Cowboy, I am sorry if you were hurt.. cybs
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  Elders performing marriages

  by LovesDubs in

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  can elders perform marriage ceremonies outside of the hall?

  can they use the jw outline?

  what rules must they follow?

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  cyber-sista

  Can elders perform marriage ceremonies outside of the hall? Can they use the JW outline? What rules must they follow? What if the two getting married are studies?

  Don't know how it was in the past, but there are now specific rules which are being strictly enforced. I was just in the middle of a major controversy with this situation regarding my non-witness daughter who was raised around the Org marrying out of the Org (catch 22 was since she was not baptized she was not qualilified to marry in the Org either--though she was told she should only marry a brother--go figure that logic). Elders in our area had been removed from their positions for attending a wedding of a brother who married a woman who was studying. I also heard from another state from a brother who is a minesterial servent who said there were new rules on this subject and if one of his baptized children got married to an unbeliever they could not attend because he would be removed from his position. The elders here warned that anyone in a position (pioneer, minesterial servant, elder) who attended my non-baptized daughter's wedding would be removed from their position. The elders here even took it a step further and told me if they didn't give all the strong warning council that they gave me and my daughter that they could be removed from their positions for not giving the warning council. A CO told me this when I complained to him, he said " you have to understand that the brothers may have come down a bit hard on you because they were in fear of losing their positions" (He was telling me to sympathize with the elders on this point after they had put me through the rack with all of this). I finally ended up losing it with one of the elders and told him that "all I have been hearing about is positions...that it seems to me that you are all more concerned with your positions than being concerned with the members of the congregation!!! " Anyway, that is my rant of the morning--this is one of the many insanities I experienced at the end of my WT daze. cybs
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  Do some people deserve DFing

  by XQsThaiPoes in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  an elder (the treasurer) at our old hall was dfed for cheating on his wife.

  the guy is a dinosaur.

  he should be shunned, and have his car keyed.

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  cyber-sista

  NO...
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  Just thought I'd introduce myself, finally!

  by TrailBlazer04 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was never "in" the wts, but my husband's x-wife and children are jw.

  he never was...it's a long story, but between the "religion" and other stuff, she's managed to inflict so much damage and pain on him that at one point he was suicidal...so much for "christian love", ya know?.

  looking forward to talking more, if that's ok with everybody!.

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  cyber-sista

  Great name trailblazer--I like you already. Please stick around and put your 2 cents in. The support and insight here has been great for me (I've just jumped in here a couple of months ago) hopefully you can find some useful info here to help your situation and your hubby out.

  welcome

  cybs
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  The Governing Body

  by cameo in

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  do you think the top men (the governing body) of the wts really believe they are proclaiming the truth??

  or do you think some of them know the wts is a bunch of bunk.....and just don't care??.

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  cyber-sista

  I don't CARE what they actually believe. I DO know that they are liars and charletans and manipulators. And shameless and unapologetic LIARS. That makes them evil. What they actually "believe" is then irrelevant, isn't it? The actual facts speak for themselves, and their beliefs do not account for anything. Their deeds count and we all know their deeds.

  Farkel

  Right on Farkel!
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  "Jehovah will fix it"

  by onacruse in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  gawwwwwwddd, how many times did i say that, and how many times have i heard it.

  notice how much it has to do with nebulous isues?

  "that elder is an unchristian jerk.

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  cyber-sista

  Was just thinking about this subject today....Coming out of my JW daze these past months the confusion in my brain is starting to clear up and sort out some of the entangled thoughts in there.

  I was in a congo with elders that didn't know what the heck they were doing, but yet we were told that we should obey them no matter what because they were the elders and they had God's spirit upon them. But then when they did something wrong, which was much of the time others would say they were just imperfect men and we just had to wait on Jehovah to fix things with the elders. I waited for quite a while, but Jehovah never stopped by at the KH as far as I could tell.
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  aloha folks! i be new here

  by dagg in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just kickin off a thread to announce my arrival.

  i was raised as a jw and no longer am active (and havent been for several years) and that is my choice.

  no one forced me out, abused me, brainwashed me, or any of that stuff.

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  cyber-sista

  Aloha Dagg,

  I have only been around here for a couple of months, but have been spilling my guts out since my arrival....So go for it--it's a good place to purge...

  Looking forward to hearing from you,

  aloha

  cybs
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  What Makes Some ExJWs So Angry & Others So Pleasant???

  by minimus in

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  from what i can see, it appears that some exwitnesses are either handling life outside the organization pretty well or not well at all.

  i wonder if some persons simply, by nature are angry, unhappy persons while others are naturally good, "honest-hearted ones" that simply want to find some measure of happiness.

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  cyber-sista

  Can't judge this one. We can only imagine some of the pain ones have had to endure because of the Org and all the mental disturbances that come from this. It's and individual thing depending on a person's background and how much they have been hurt. I can only sympathize even with the ones who appear to be so angry-- it is an indication of their pain.

  Sincerely, cybs