well that is why I got out after the second marriage.. the idiot duped me and can't even have sex.. he only wanted a green card.. so I will NEVER get scriptural freedom by him. I thought I am not going through this garbage again and quit. IF he knows what I am doing with my life right now I guess I have given him his freedom.. but I stopped playing by this religions rules and fortunately now I know it was a good decision.
Posts by Sassy
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25Letter to elders when marriage mate confess adultery
by scrubmaster ini understand from talking to some one who had some knowledge of the situation but could not find the reference material , that the society has something in writing which says if a person believes they are scripturally free and that they are willing to stand before jehovah and face the consquences they can get married -- (this in effect leave the elders out of the equation and they can not do anything to you.
) does anyone know where this reference can be found -- i need it as soon as possible.
i can not find it.
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Details on Files Kept in the Cong.
by Blueblades inwhat exactly is put into the file on those who are disfellowedshipped?is the information very detailed,so that others can read such details,or is it just that they have been disfellowedshipped.. for example:suppose someone have been df.for a sexual matter,brother or sister.are the details descriptive of what was committed or is just that they were df.i know that on the outside of the envelope the name is posted and that's it.but if someone were to open the folder and look inside can they get the detailed information on that person?.
when do the elders destroy such folders?can a person who no longer wishes to come back get their records and destroy them themselves?.
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Sassy
I always wondered if everything you have ever been counciled on.. stayes in the folder.. like your records at the dr's office.. just keeps getting thicker and thicker..
someone told me once if you keep moving congregations, the olders stuff gets laundered out.. but I find that hard to believe.. I would be curious to see what any 'used to be elders' have to say on the files.. since we don't personally get to see them.
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What's the most ridiculous thing you were ever counselled on?
by micheal inone of the cornerstones of jw's is counsel.
they just love to give counsel and many times they will literally make things up just for the sake of counsel.
i was once counselled for joking around too much.
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Sassy
well I guess the most ridiculous thing I was ever counselled on was my attire for a congregation picnic. Someone approached the elders thinking my shorts were "too short". Now we are not talking hight cut and show some 'booty'.. but short with a 1 inch slit on the side. No one ever could do the 'approach someone if you have a problem' in the congregation first.. AS the scriptures direct, NO, we always got to jumpt straight to the elders and tell them we are stumbled by something and then they come to you and tell you that you did this.....or you did that.. and someone was offended.. we weren't even told who had a problem with it.. so we couldn't even begin to take the step to make peace with our brother.. all we got was a reprimand by the elders.. and I got it for my 'short shorts...
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Letter to elders when marriage mate confess adultery
by scrubmaster ini understand from talking to some one who had some knowledge of the situation but could not find the reference material , that the society has something in writing which says if a person believes they are scripturally free and that they are willing to stand before jehovah and face the consquences they can get married -- (this in effect leave the elders out of the equation and they can not do anything to you.
) does anyone know where this reference can be found -- i need it as soon as possible.
i can not find it.
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Sassy
Funny JT... I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall and heard all that....
as far as the above article, that was what gave me my freedome years ago when I was still trying to be a JW but my ex wouldn't admit to adultry except personally to me.. after two years and he still wouldn't admit anything the elders approached the CO on my situation and he told them to point the article out to me and it was then in my hands what I did with it. The very same article that Blondie referenced above is the one that I read and then wrote a letter explaining my reason for feeling I should have my scriptural freedom..
Now note: this article was on an UNBELIEVING MATE. My ex (we were legally divorced), was only inactive but not DFd and they accepted the letter and gave me my freedom.
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If you could be any other nationality....
by logansrun in...what would you choose.
i'd pick japanese over my polish/german/scottish heritage any day.
i'm watching iron chef....damn, those japanese can cook a live octopus better than a mofo.
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Sassy
I actually like my nationality.. so I'd prefer not to be another.
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WHY did you get baptised?
by fairy ini was just thinking back to when i got baptised.
and i dont really remember the real reason why.. thinking about it seems to bring up the idea that i only got baptised because of the way everyone treats you when they find out you are getting dunked - and not specifically to serve jehovah.. baptism day comes and you sit there and listen to the talk.
then you go out and get your swimming duds on and line up at the "whatever it is they decide to dunk you in".
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Sassy
I remember why.. because it was expected of me. All the kids in the congregation had done it already a year or two before and so even they expected me to do so as well as my mother. I wasn't very old, early teens.
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My Best Friends Still Love Me
by Piph ini had a talk with my best friend (who is still an active jw) the other day, and told her that i wasn't interested in remaining an active witness any more.
i knew she would accept my feelings, because she's a wonderful person and is actually very emotionally healthy, but was afraid because i didn't really know how tight a grip the mind control had on her, and didn't know if she would feel obligated to back off in our friendship any.
i was deeply afraid of that, because we're as close, if not closer than, sisters.. to my pleasant surprise, she not only totally accepted my feelings, but she already knew what i was going to say before i said it.
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Sassy
I'm so glad Piph that love is still being sent your way through your parents. I wish I could say the same. I've had such vicious and mean correspondance that I am not in touch with any of my friends for any reason any longer and they are not sending message back through my mom.. and actually my mom hardly talks to me any more either..
I've been dreaming about friends too.. last night about seeing the man whose wife studied and brought my mom into the 'truth'.. I woke up and cried. He's been dead for over 10 yrs now.. everything has changed and I miss those people even though I dont' miss the religion..
any way.. I sure am glad you are getting some positive feelings back..
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Lies and the Lying Jehovah's Witnesses who tell them
by joelbear ina visit home recently brought me back up against the destructiveness of the watchtower society.. far from being happy, my parents are exhaustingly sad, angry and bitter.
they spent the weekend.
chopping first at each other and then at my brother and i. how we had disappointed them.
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Sassy
Actually my mother loves being a Jehovah's Witness and really believes all the bs. She is excited every day to go out into the field and tell others about this grand hope. The only thing that discourages her is that now I, the last of her children have left for the world.
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I Am Mine
by Euphemism inwhen the pearl jam single i am mine came out a little over a year ago, i was still a witness.
it's easy to see why the lyrics appealed to me at a time when i was subconsciously trying to free myself from the mind control.. i know that i was born and i know that i?ll die.. the in between is mine.. i am mine.. .... we?re different behind the eyes, there?s no need to hide .
.... the sorrow grows bigger when the sorrow's denied.. i only know my mind.. i am mine.. freedom has been a gradual process.
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Sassy
love you and the miss'us too Craig..
you were the first one to extend a hand and welcome me to the 'dark side' and I know you did the same for Euph and Piph
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Oct 2003 KM question
by IronGland incan someone tell me the first song number of the service meeting as listed in the october 2003 kingdom ministry for the week of the 27th?
no particular reason
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Sassy
I remember when I was on there... can't tell you the BORING brothers who contacted me....
how come some of you fun apostates didn't find me and "free me" years ago???