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  One hope for ALL christians - interesting video on heavenly hope

  by paradisebeauty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n7qe6fqac4.

  a short video with proof from the bible that the ones going to "heaven" are not meant to stay there forever, but just to meet jesus there (at the rapture) and be with him forever, on earth, not in heaven!.

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  paradisebeauty

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n7QE6fQaC4

  A short video with proof from the Bible that the ones going to "heaven" are not meant to stay there forever, but just to meet Jesus there (at the rapture) and be with Him forever, on earth, not in heaven!
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  The Weed AMONG the wheat ..NOT.."the weed overgrowed the wheat" Misunderstood parabel about anointed and about Gods patience

  by TheWonderofYou in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  referring to tim3l0rd who posted 12 days ago following message (see below) and the postings in which the "scattered" non organised anointed from 100 ce - 1900 ce are discussed, and the parabel of the weed among the wheat, i found out that it is not necessary at all that a "slave class" of anointed does itself distincts frome the weed , founds a new separated church,declares itself clean and holy, and begins a denunciating and destructive unnecessary harvesting.

  the slave class of anointed should have better remained in the church and waited for jesus judgement.basis: .

  tim310rd wrote: this goes along with the 2013 wt that changed the definition of the fdsl.

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  paradisebeauty

  Interesting.

  I suppose it is not ok for us to criticize the wt, too. Or maybe just worthless use of our time ....

  I've been thinking lately: should I stay in the org and just believe what I believe?

  What bothers me about them is their exclusivism, interdictions to visit other churches / christian meetings, and other unbiblical interdictions. (And the fact that if you suddenly start partaking they think you are crazy)
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  Small details...

  by Garrett in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a witness friend wanted to meet up recently and talk.

  since this person was a close friend and who i thought had a level head, i'd go ahead and speak with him.

  our conversation actually helped me figure a few things out not only for myself but also about the witnesses.. so we're talking and i'm telling him my experience and the doctrines that i disagreed with as well as the scandals that made me disgusted with the organization.

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  paradisebeauty

  Most of them do not want to wake up and here is why.

  This religion gives them a sense of importance. The rest of the world does not understand "the truth". Only they do. The rest of the world will be destroyed, only them will survive.

  I talked to a friend who does not go to meetings anymore and has waken up. Her sister is a devoted jw. She said that if her sister would see and accept all the facts about this religion and understand that it is not the one and only religion chosen by God, she would probably die in the same day. Her life has no meaning and no sense outside of this religion.

  I also tried to talk to some jw's to reason that people will not be judged by the simple fact that they are a part of this organization or not, that other christians in other religions will be saved.

  They can not and do not want to accept this. Most of jw's think like this. TheY can not cope with the thought of other people in other religions being saved.

  All their feelings and thoughts of self identity and self-esteem are linked to this religion.
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  Is this doctrine still in in effect?

  by WasOnceBlind in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so something i never knew was the fact jw's were taught that jesus is only the mediator for the anointed class and not for everyone.

  i only found this out after reading "crisis of conscience" and i was actually pretty shocked to learn so.

  if that is the case, when they pray why even bother saying the words "in the name of jesus christ we ask"?

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  paradisebeauty

  I am sure more than 80% of jw's have no idea of this doctrine.

  It is a hidden but main doctrine!
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  Interesting resource site

  by paradisebeauty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i dound an interesting site from a christian group that has similar doctrines - but more sound i'd say.

  they have free audio books and free podcasts.

  if you read / listen, what do you think of them?.

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  paradisebeauty

  Listen to their audio books or poscasts.

  Very interesting. All ideas are supported by the Bible. And they do not believe christians should leave their congregations, they believe all christians are saved.

  They define themselves as a para-church organization.

  "Para" meaning:

  Parachurch organizations are Christian faith-based organizations that usually carry out their mission independent of church oversight. The prefix para, is Greek for beside,or alongside.
  
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  Is this doctrine still in in effect?

  by WasOnceBlind in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so something i never knew was the fact jw's were taught that jesus is only the mediator for the anointed class and not for everyone.

  i only found this out after reading "crisis of conscience" and i was actually pretty shocked to learn so.

  if that is the case, when they pray why even bother saying the words "in the name of jesus christ we ask"?

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  paradisebeauty

  Thank you Searcher!

  And before that there is this sentence:

  Jesus Christ is not the mediator between Jehovah God and all mankind. He is the mediator between Jehovah and the spiritual israel which is limited to 144000 ...
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  A Whole New Watchtower Society (Governing Body 3.0 / Simplified Society)

  by FusionTheism in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a whole new watchtower society (governing body 3.0 / simplified society).

  i'm not here to attack the governing body, watchtower society, or the jehovah's witnesses (jw) organization.

  the bible says there is just "one hope" for christians (ephesians 4:4).

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  paradisebeauty

  FusionTheism

  here is a webpage to some christians who believe something similar as you wrote.

  Truthortradition.com

  they also have free ebooks and postcasts with their believes

  I think it is a great idea to send a letter to the GB, maybe maybe they will get back to their senses. But it is probably better to not sign it with your real name. Wonder if they read it in this case.
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  A Whole New Watchtower Society (Governing Body 3.0 / Simplified Society)

  by FusionTheism in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a whole new watchtower society (governing body 3.0 / simplified society).

  i'm not here to attack the governing body, watchtower society, or the jehovah's witnesses (jw) organization.

  the bible says there is just "one hope" for christians (ephesians 4:4).

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  paradisebeauty

  I agree with you. With one addition, about the one hope of christians.

  In revelation it says that christians are raptured to meet Jesus in the sky and after they come back to earth with Jesus for the battle of Armaghedon to fight next to Him.

  So in the end, they come back to earth and there is indeed just one hope for christians! And yes, some will have privileged positions in the kingdom, but this does not mean that only 144000 are anointed / become new creations.
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  Rare Posting, Could you post the Time of the Monthly JW Broadcast where crazy things are said?

  by Bubblegum Apotheosis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i do not know what it is about the monthly broadcasts that are making me feel they have watered down their message and talk at us like were stupid fools.

  they prep each month for these broadcasts, why can't the gb speak on the level, not talking down at us like we are all infants?

  the pitch, pace and tone of each monthly talk is weird, so there are many of us who can't handle watching this trash entirely.

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  paradisebeauty

  Another crazy say in on the anual meeting broadcast, at about 2 h and 9 min, a GB member talks about the piramyd next to Russell's grave and about his "hobby" - studying the pyramids.
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  Is this doctrine still in in effect?

  by WasOnceBlind in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so something i never knew was the fact jw's were taught that jesus is only the mediator for the anointed class and not for everyone.

  i only found this out after reading "crisis of conscience" and i was actually pretty shocked to learn so.

  if that is the case, when they pray why even bother saying the words "in the name of jesus christ we ask"?

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  paradisebeauty

  If anyone wants to see a quote where they say black on white that Jesus is the mediator only between God and the 144 000, there is a book published in 1986, named The desire for peace and security worldwide (ws) - go to chapter 1 paragraph 16.

  If you have the english software, please copy and paste that quote - it is so clear that that is what they truly believe!