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  Arguably the best debunker on YouTube

  by Terry in

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  2. beliefs

  this fellow's channel is called watchtower examination.. he is clear, reasonable, thoughtful--but best of all--his teaching method with visuals is perfection!.

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukcep7v1i1o.

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  Totally agree with you Terry his way of tackling their laughable doctrines is great!

  Reading the posts below is equally as interesting. There's a JW apologist who seems to have taken a liking to his videos in particular and seems very keen to debunk the arguements he brings to the table. In turn there are a number of born-again Christians who like to do the same with his debunking of the video.

  As much as it makes for interesting reading I find it simply reinforces my current view (somewhat agnostic) that either the Bible is nothing more than a book of fiction or that God takes real pleasure in confusing his creation and watching them squabble over irrelevant, nonsensicle gibberish.
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  What's Your Favorite Perfume or Cologne?

  by minimus in

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  it is xmas time and perfumes and colognes are on the list.

  what do you really love for a scent if you were being given a gift?.

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  My personal favourite is Aramis-Life. I also like a bit of Joop Jump.
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  Working on a Sunday morning!

  by lurkernomore in

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  2. friends

  it's coming up to 4 months since our last meeting.

  apart from three visits to the house in the first 4 weeks we've not heard a peep from anyone, except for two 'encouraging' cards from two older ladies in the local hall.. a couple self-righteous, not even exemplary witnesses, have taken it upon themselves to pre-emptively shun me on a couple occasions, which i found rather funny.. anyway my grandad needed some minor building work doing to the front of the house, which my brother and i happily agreed to do for him.

  his house is on a main road running up the hill to the kingdom hall.

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  Whilst poor me had to stay home with a whingy child
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  Working on a Sunday morning!

  by lurkernomore in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it's coming up to 4 months since our last meeting.

  apart from three visits to the house in the first 4 weeks we've not heard a peep from anyone, except for two 'encouraging' cards from two older ladies in the local hall.. a couple self-righteous, not even exemplary witnesses, have taken it upon themselves to pre-emptively shun me on a couple occasions, which i found rather funny.. anyway my grandad needed some minor building work doing to the front of the house, which my brother and i happily agreed to do for him.

  his house is on a main road running up the hill to the kingdom hall.

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  It's coming up to 4 months since our last meeting. Apart from three visits to the house in the first 4 weeks we've not heard a peep from anyone, except for two 'encouraging' cards from two older ladies in the local hall.

  A couple self-righteous, not even exemplary witnesses, have taken it upon themselves to pre-emptively shun me on a couple occasions, which i found rather funny.

  Anyway my Grandad needed some minor building work doing to the front of the house, which my brother and I happily agreed to do for him. His house is on a main road running up the hill to the Kingdom Hall. Lucky for me the only day either of us could do the job was on Sunday.

  I took this opportunity to make an early start and happily ignore everyone driving past :D
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  TYRED OF SPELING ERURS? SIK OF BAD GRAMMUR?

  by Terry in

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  You will have to make provision for slight spelling differences between American posters and British posters Terry, as we tend to use the 'correct' spelling of 's' instead of 'z' in a lot of words, such as the previously mentioned baptise ;)
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  Deposition of Richard Ashe

  by truthseekeriam in

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  http://watchtowerdocuments.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/lopez-11exhibit-8-to-dec-of-copley-iso-opp-to-plnts-mfs.pdf.

  did any of you guys sit down and read this??

  it's long but i assure you it's a great read.. .

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  I noticed that too WMF. There were a few places where i thought wtf, is this a translated document or something?! As you go on though you'll see the transcriptor is using shorthand to document the discussion so i guess that's what's caused some of the obscure nonsensicle sentence structures.
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  Monotheists my ass!!!

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  we have been taught that the hebrews were monotheists believing and worshiping in only one god, except for those times when they sinned and worship pagan idol gods.

  their one true god is yahweh / jehovah.

  comparing the book of genesis with older sumerian and babylonian writings what do we find?

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  I only heard about the Sumerians fairly recently whilst perusing a plethora of different youtube videos one evening. I felt this was one of the biggest eye openers for me with regards to the so called 'inspired writings'. This was the first thing that made me feel that perhaps I'm more comfortable in the agnostic camp, unless of course someone or something can prove things otherwise.

  Thanks for the info Crazyguy very interesting!
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  "Her words suggest................."

  by RedPillPopper in

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  first time posting.

  i've lurked for about 2 years.

  30+yr convert.

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  Welcome Red! Good to have you with us. It just goes to show that apart from the thousands of people who've signed up to JWN there are a large number of lurkers who for different reasons don't comment, at least until they find something that really strikes a chord with them.

  Fantastic observation btw. Very interesting.
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  JWs - A View From Outside

  by Joe Grundy in

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  2. friends

  i never was a jw (i make this point in - almost - every post) but having been brought up ('raised' for our us cousins) in a non-conformist fundy sect with 'rapture' aspirations, it wasn't that different.. i still have extended family members in it, or in that mindset, but we rarely discuss religion.

  in particular, my sister and bil lost their son (my nephew) some years ago when he was just 13. their comfort is that he is in a 'better place' and i don't want to challenge that to them.. i keep up with all things jw here in this forum and maintain my academic interest and these are just my thoughts as an outsider, for what they are worth.. ime, those people who have heard of jws tend to lump them in with mormons and other crazies and have no knowledge or interest in them - other than to warn neighbours when they are about.. where i live should be prime 'witnessing' territory but they rarely come round, even in the recent leafletting campaign.

  they are not as effective as the people who regularly call with the latest menus from the local curry/chinese/kebab houses.. on the occasions when jws have called, despite invitations to come in and have a cup of tea, etc., none has ever wanted to engage in conversation, far less progress to an invitation to a kh meeting or start a bible study (and i always present myself as an 'imterested householder').. my conversations with people in general and friends in the real world lead me to conclude that few people have heard of jws, those that have regard them as a minor irrevelant nuisance and that there is no interest in their message or beliefs.. a few months ago i did a 'drive-past' of the million pound seafront property in bangor, north wales that wt recently bought for use as a 'translation office' (ha ha!).

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  As someone who lives in a locality not too far from you Joe I can totally confirm your evaluation of the impact JWS have in this area. The town I live in has approx 0.5% wintesses out of the local population. Shortly before I left around 3 months ago I noticed a massive increase in the time spent in the 'field' by the congregation as a whole, partially down to the August campaign. My mother has taken to going out two or three times a week from once a week ever since the campaign finished. In any case since my departure I can honestly say I've only seen them knocking on doors once or twice and I work in town a lot.

  My wife and I have both said how little we see of them since we no longer attend. The most visible sign is the cart every morning in the town centre. I have to agree that we can now see how little impact they really have in the real world and it's been a real eye opener for us.
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  Zone Visit: An Announcement That Will "Test Your Faith"

  by breakfast of champions in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.

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  Wow! How bloody manipulative. I wonder how many are under the illusion that this was 'encouraging'? As many have mentioned you have to be in an abusive relationship to put up with this kind of bs and play it off as loving!

  So glad I got my family out if this crazy!

  Oh an btw in the turds defense he was probably thinking of the God of the Hebrew scriptures as we all know it couldn't be the god of the NT 😉