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  Today the two elders did not appear to declare at prosecutor's citation

  by opusdei1972 in

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  2. scandals

  today the two elders who stalked my sister were absent at the prosecutor's citation.

  they were waited for 1 hour, but they did not come.

  this attitude favors their culpability.

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  kairos

  When elders start going to jail after WT lawyers give terrible advice, things will change.
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  Overlapping gen teaching- Help?

  by raven in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi friends,.

  can someone please help explain to me the overlapping generations teaching?

  i have not been able to grasp this one or what it even applies to?

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  kairos

  Aside from the full blown lying like the end is NOT coming, it's the poor loyal JWs that are growing old and can't do anything about this.

  You've been a JW all your life and you are approaching 70.
  There's no way you can risk researching and verifying your suspicions.

  You can't think about it or discuss your concerns with anyone.

  Instead you pretend everything is fine and Jehovah will fix it all later.
  ( this is the story of my older loyal JW wife )

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  It's the most evil 'bait and switch' that I am aware of.
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  Going to meetings to "save face."

  by Darkknight757 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  going to make this short and sweet but i need some advise again and i kinda need to vent a bit so sorry.😢.

  so it has been weeks since the wife and i have been to meetings.

  it has been nothing short of wonderful!!!

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  kairos

  It may be getting to the point where the JWs are expecting to do crazy things whenever their G.O.D. tell them to.

  It's madness you need to be free of.
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  Going to meetings to "save face."

  by Darkknight757 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  going to make this short and sweet but i need some advise again and i kinda need to vent a bit so sorry.😢.

  so it has been weeks since the wife and i have been to meetings.

  it has been nothing short of wonderful!!!

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  kairos

  Every minute spent at a KH or JW event is time wasted.
  You cannot recover time lost.

  Freedom is valuable. People have sacrificed everything for the benefit of future generations.

  I'm getting to the point where I simply do not miss these people.If they approach me at sometime in the future I will certainly be there for them.

  The strange part is how much they fear us, those that reject the meetings and videos that are full of lies.

  They legitimately cannot understand why we are "rejecting the only hope for life". They are baffled. Then when asked what is the current message and hope, it's blank stares. How would you ever be able to 'research' using the WT library, since you never know what's the current understanding anymore. Every meeting has the potential for life altering changes.

  JWs give up everything for the Borg. Free time, personal goals, relationships, love of others, family and even their own life if required.
  ( rejecting life saving blood or preaching in very unsafe conditions to their demise. )

  You cannot be a JW if you do not regularly express your loyalty to the Governing Body.
  You also need to be mentally prepared to do anything they say:

  At that time, the life-saving direction that we receive from Jehovah’s organization may not appear practical from a human standpoint. All of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not.
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  WTBTS vs. Islam

  by kairos in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the articles and meeting parts have been missing something all along, as far as i can see.. jws are taught to demonize all 'worldly' ( not jws) organizations, individuals and religions as having no value only to be destroyed by god at 'harm-you-gettin'-( armageddon ).. why do they not mention islam?no scathing denouncements?.

  the only publication i really remember, was the "mankind's search for god" book that touched on the beliefs and practices of muslims.. why do you think this is the case?.

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  kairos

  Thanks for the replies.

  I guess my point was, one cannot be a Muslim if they do not follow the leadership ( ones that claim to have the market cornered on Muhammad ). They have figured out a way to fool some members into killing themselves and others for Allah with a everlasting reward in view.

  Sound familiar?

  JWs give up everything for the Borg. Free time, personal goals, relationships, love of others, family and even their own life if required.
  ( rejecting life saving blood or preaching in legitimate unsafe conditions to their demise. )

  Just like you cannot be a JW if you do not regularly express your loyalty to the Governing Body.
  You also need to be mentally prepared to do anything they say:

  At that time, the life-saving direction that we receive from Jehovah’s organization may not appear practical from a human standpoint. All of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not. Now is the time for any who may be putting their trust in secular education, material things, or human institutions to adjust their thinking. w13 11/15 3:16, 17 Examining the Scriptures—2015
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  Are Witnesses really "Bible Students"?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we were always told that as witnesses we were "sincere bible students".... carefully examining the scriptures.. yes, we were indeed taught much about the content of the bible, it's history, prophecies etc..... but it was always from one perspective....that of the society.

  when the society changed its interpretations, we had to do the same..... so were we really "bible students", or "society students"?.

  just a thought.....

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  kairos

  In my old hall in Napa, Ca, they would always introduce the weekly Watchtower study as our "Bible study with the aid of the Watchtower".

  Of course we all know it is not a study at all.
  No questions or alternate views are ever entertained.
  In fact, have you ever been at the meeting when a non-JW ( worldly ) person would bring up something in opposition to the lesson.

  Snickering from the congregation and an invitation for the commentor to speak with them after the lesson was the norm.

  The weekly WT "lesson" is cult indoctrination plain and simple.
  It's criminal.
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  Girlfriend who is a JW but has so many problems caused by the cult!

  by AmIright in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  ok, i am not now, nor will i ever be a jw.

  so ive been with my gf for over a year now and she has finally woke up to how destructive the cult was to her!

  she turned to it more and had private tutors?

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  kairos

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  UK: Would anyone like to attend Frank Otuo's next hearing against the Watchtower? Or send him your support?

  by defender of truth in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  www.standard.co.uk/news/jehovahs-witness-sues-for-150000-after-church-snubbed-him-over-fraud-claims-9750062.htmlfrank otuo is suing the watchtower for disfellowshipping him and causing the loss of his family and his friends, after being disfellowshipped based on a false accusation of fraud.on friday may 13th 2016, a hearing will take place to decide whether the watchtower's defence will be thrown out.otuo is confident that it will be.

  ;)would anyone like to be there on the day, to see what happens and maybe even report back and tell us what you saw?.

  otuo would like it if some people could be there to cheer him on, as it were.

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  kairos

  Can you even imagine a class action lawsuit against WT for human rights violations and religious abuse?

  When the courts find out they DF their children ( under 18 ) that have been sequestered from society and subjected to poorly prepared 'home-schooling' and left with no support and homeless, that might get some attention.

  They will wish it was just the pedophile lawsuits that are threatening their cash.

  This could be it!

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  WT will throw their money in the streets.
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  Just wondering who on this board has a spouse that is fully in and your awake?

  by goingthruthemotions in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i am just curious who on this board is in the same situation has i am?

  a spouse that is fully brain doogled in and you are awake to ttatt.. without going into serious detail and no names are given.

  i would like to possible talk with one of you all, it's just so helpful to communicate with someone in the same situation as me.. i am located in the southwest united states..

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  kairos

  I left three years ago. My wife was at the Meeting today.

  She has a "wait and see attitude". Or "Waiting on Jehovah"

  Which I assume, is waiting for the GB to admit that they are wrong and all DA themselves before she can envision not following them...

  Filthy cult...
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  Galations 1:8, 9 and Nu-Lite®

  by kairos in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  however, even if we or an angel out of heaven were to declare to you as good news something beyond what we declared to you as good news, let him be accursed.

  9 as we have said above, i also now say again, whoever it is that is declaring to you as good news something beyond what you accepted, let him be accursed.. guess what?

  wtbts is accursed.. they go beyond.

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  kairos

  
  

  They make up stuff...