Posts by kairos

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Mrs. Eden sends her regards to you all .... =)

by EdenOne in

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friends

mrs. eden is laying here by my side reading the forum latest posts with me and asked me to send you all her warmest regards.

more to follow soon.... .

eden

kairos

Welcome. It can be difficult going, but we are all here for each other.

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Exposing one's identity. When?

by kairos in

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friends

i've been toying with the idea of just coming out and posting my name and location as an attempt to be available to locals that secretly browse the forum that have known me for up to 25 years.

( "reaching out", so to speak ).

i'm not da'd or df'd, so this most certainly could end in a dramatic confrontation.

kairos

It is sinking in, but the reality is... Nothing will change.

The last few hold-out JWs will now join in on the loving shunning.
( feel the love! )

Not a problem.
I will engage who I please, if I'm up to it.

I have no reason to honor their ridiculous shunning decree.
They can run and hide, for all I care.

___

So, everything played out pretty much as expected. No surprises.

The Geoffrey Jackson testimony that led the Royal Commission to proclaim the JWs a "captive religion" was very appropriate to my situation.

They will hunt you down if they can...

___

I should have just DA'd instead of stepping down as a servant.

Would have been so much easier.
On the other hand, I have become the most notorious exJW in Napa's history.
Possibly the only one DF'd for admitted apostasy!!

I hope some people start researching the ORG as a result.

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Exposing one's identity. When?

by kairos in

jw
friends

i've been toying with the idea of just coming out and posting my name and location as an attempt to be available to locals that secretly browse the forum that have known me for up to 25 years.

( "reaching out", so to speak ).

i'm not da'd or df'd, so this most certainly could end in a dramatic confrontation.

For my wife's sake.
No more action on my part.
They will make the announcement to a small group of older folks and absolutely nothing will change in my life except no more annoying JW elder calls or visits.

That's really what I have wanted all along for the last few years.

Anyway, this topic serves as a permanent record of how "loving shepherds of the flock" treat good people.

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Exposing one's identity. When?

by kairos in

jw
friends

i've been toying with the idea of just coming out and posting my name and location as an attempt to be available to locals that secretly browse the forum that have known me for up to 25 years.

( "reaching out", so to speak ).

i'm not da'd or df'd, so this most certainly could end in a dramatic confrontation.

kairos

Just like corporate clockwork:

How many mistakes can you find comparing the first letter from Ray?

I find it amusing that this man can witch hunt me out while covering for known illegal citizen and unlicensed Ca contractor "Victor Moreno" as a publisher in good standing even though I mentioned this to all of the local elderz and two circuit bozos.

They figured ignoring the "problem" is the better way to go.

Hell, I don't think Ray ever got his citizenship.He's a Canadian that regularly border hops to take advantage of cheap health care. Paying back Ceaser's things and all.

Typical righteousness...

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Baby steps taken with a grain of salt

by Israel Ricky Gonzales in

seeing how my jw wife nearly lost it when i woke up to ttatt and was df'd just over a year ago, she has been showing cracks in her armor.. 1. she has stopped pioneering to resume her good-paying career, working full-time.. 2. she suggested marriage counseling.. 3. she suggested going to a latin rap concert at a casino for our anniversary.. 4. when we reconciled recently and began living together as a family again, she agreed to alternate weeks of jw activity with the kids, one week doing the jw thing with her and the next week not doing the jw thing with me .

5. she hasn't had perfect attendance at meetings or for field service since she started working full-time.

just last night, she skipped meeting to help co-workers prepare food for an employee appreciation luncheon held today.

kairos

Following.

Keep us posted!

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Exposing one's identity. When?

by kairos in

jw
friends

i've been toying with the idea of just coming out and posting my name and location as an attempt to be available to locals that secretly browse the forum that have known me for up to 25 years.

( "reaching out", so to speak ).

i'm not da'd or df'd, so this most certainly could end in a dramatic confrontation.

kairos

So today is the day.

Not going!

I sent out a group e-mail with all addresses visible.
All witnesses I've known for over two decades.
They will all know each other have received this.

Providing the truth of the situation instead of keeping it behind closed doors of the judicial execution chamber.

Sent the invite and this copy of the cease and desist to the elderz:

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Kairos Trekkor Wills

Napa, CA 94559

Robert Council and Oak Knoll Body of Elders

1976 Wise Dr. Napa, CA 94559

RE: Cease and desist from ALL contact, annoying and harassing phone calls and invitations to appear before an unrecognized Judicial Committee of congregation leaders.

Dear Robert Council and Oak Knoll Body of Elders

This CEASE AND DESIST ORDER is to inform you that your persistent actions including but not limited to making ANY contact, annoying and harassing phone calls and invitations to appear before an unrecognized Judicial Committee of congregation leaders have become unbearable. You are ORDERED TO STOP such activities immediately as they are being done in violation of the law. Penal code 653m, as expressed to ‘elder’ Raynald Beauchemin by phone and ‘elder’ Robert Council by voice message from Napa County Sherriff Deputy Erik Fisher on 8-14-2015 as witnessed by myself.

A certified letter to appear before judicial hearing was received today.

The additional phone call and message to ‘elder’ Raynald Beauchemin by Napa County Sheriff Deputy on 8-18-2015 made clear that this is UNACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR.

I have the right to remain free from these activities as they constitute annoyance, harassment and violations of my basic human rights. (http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/ )

I will pursue any legal remedies available to me against you if these activities continue. These remedies include but are not limited to: contacting law enforcement to obtain criminal sanctions against you, and suing you civilly for damages I have incurred as a result of your actions.

Again, you must IMMEDIATELY STOP ALL contact, annoying and harassing phone calls and invitations to appear before an unrecognized Judicial Committee of congregation leaders and send me written confirmation that you will stop such activities

This letter acts as your FINAL WARNING to discontinue this unwanted conduct before I pursue legal actions against you. At this time, I am NOT escalating further contacting with the authorities or filing civil suit against you, as I hope we can resolve this matter without authoritative involvement. I am not under any circumstances, however, waiving any legal rights I have presently, or future legal remedies against you by sending you this letter. This order acts as ONE FINAL CHANCE for you to cease your illegal activities before I exercise my rights.

To ensure compliance with this letter, and to halt any legal action I may take against you, I require you to fill in and sign the attached form and mail it back to me within 10 days of your receipt of this letter. Failure to do so will act as evidence of your infringement upon my legal rights, and I will immediately seek legal avenues to remedy the situation.

Sincerely,

Kairos Trekkor Wills 8-18-2015

CEASE AND DESIST COMPLIANCE AGREEMENT

I, Robert Council do hereby agree to stop unwanted contact, annoying and harassing phone calls and invitations to appear before an unrecognized Judicial Committee of congregation leaders which are in violation of Kairos Trekkor Wills‘s rights. [ penal code 653m ] I understand that this is my final chance to cease these activities. I understand that Kairos Trekkor Wills potentially has the right to pursue legal action against me relating to my engagement in these activities, but he will not pursue those rights in contemplation of my compliance with this written demand. I further understand that Kairos Trekkor Wills has not waived his rights and may pursue legal remedies against me if I fail to abide by this agreement. I understand that this agreement is not specifically limited to the activities named herein. I will not engage in any activity now or in the future done for the purpose of unwanted contact, annoying and harassing phone calls and invitations to appear before an unrecognized Judicial Committee of congregation leaders against Kairos Trekkor Wills. I furthermore agree not to engage in any activity, regardless of its official title, that is done in violation of Kairos Trekkor Wills‘s legal rights. If I fail to cease performing these activities, Kairos Trekkor Wills may pursue legal action against me in accordance his legal rights. This agreement acts as a contract between Robert Council and Kairos Trekkor Wills. Forbearing enforcement of legally enforceable remedies is sufficient consideration to support this agreement. This agreement represents the entire agreement between the parties. Any statements made orally, written, or otherwise which are not contained herein shall have no impact on either parties’ rights or obligations elaborated in this agreement.

Date 8-18-2015

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[ printed name]

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signature

CC: Oak Knoll Congregation of Jehovah’s Witnesses

Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York. ATTN: Legal Dept

Napa County Sherriff Deputy Erik Fisher, Re: incident #E150805674

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Go on welfare!

by life is to short in

i am going to make this short.

i ran into a older jw women who i have known my whole life.

she is pushing 80 and will never change.

kairos

I knew a long time single pioneer woman that purposely made the right amount of money to maintain welfare for as long as I knew her. ( 20+ years )
She would refuse to work or accept money that would disqualify her benefits.

She's DF'd now and still thinks it's the truth, even though she has been out for nearly two years living with a witness man she broke up a family to have as her own...

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