Posts by kairos

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bethel

by Sabin in

mr vincent toole, he gets 3 meals a day his accommodation, daily exercise & a degree to be a lawyer.

they are asking for kids ice-cream money so they can send their monkeys to uni to get them off child abuse cases, while telling the ones giving the money not to get a higher education.

holy shit i never thought about that before.

Exposing one's identity. When?

by kairos in

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i've been toying with the idea of just coming out and posting my name and location as an attempt to be available to locals that secretly browse the forum that have known me for up to 25 years.

( "reaching out", so to speak ).

i'm not da'd or df'd, so this most certainly could end in a dramatic confrontation.

kairos

Got a call from an elder today.

Oak Knoll WT conductor...

I asked why he hasn't spoken to me in two years.
He ignored that and said that I hadn't spoken to him in two years either.

Very clearly stated that I do not acknowledge their authority and gave him three options after admitting apostasy:

Come meet me in person alone as a friend, in writing or good-bye.

( just to be a bit of dick, I said you can even come over here and watch me smoke a cigarette )

I explained that if they disrupt my life or my basic human rights, I will pursue legal action.
"DO NOT PURSUE ME!! I repeat DO NOT PURSUE ME!!"

He selected good-bye.

There is so much more, but isn't that enough?

Told him to expect my e-mail tonight.

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l just had a discussion with my uber Dub father about the RC in Australia

by joe134cd in

just jotting this down while it's fresh in my mind.. joe= apparently they have got issues over in australia at the moment with sex abuse, and this time the government got involved.. dad=yeah they mentioned this at the assembly last weekend.

apparently so they said all religions and organisations are been investigated.

joe= kind of seems funny how the only 2 religious groups been interviewed so far are the catholics and jws.

kairos

Next, every elder I hold e-mail addresses will receive something similar.

Including a really 'fun' legal statement.

( PM me if you would like a copy )

Oh no!! The people that shun me might DF me and shun me?!?

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l just had a discussion with my uber Dub father about the RC in Australia

by joe134cd in

just jotting this down while it's fresh in my mind.. joe= apparently they have got issues over in australia at the moment with sex abuse, and this time the government got involved.. dad=yeah they mentioned this at the assembly last weekend.

apparently so they said all religions and organisations are been investigated.

joe= kind of seems funny how the only 2 religious groups been interviewed so far are the catholics and jws.

kairos

I just sent this to my old COBE last night.

I don't expect he'll like it much...

______

Hi Steven,
You have not responded to my earlier message last week about the AUS Royal Commission investigation into JW child abuse history and policy as an organization.
I assume you ARE following along? http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/jehovahs-witnesses-hear-one-case-of-alleged-child-sex-abuse-a-week-royal-commission-20150804-girrp6.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTtD6gEJ-vU When I asked you for 'spiritual' help those years ago, you asked me on two separate occasions, once in my shed and once with your father as witness to my answer,
"If I believed the Governing Body was directed by Jehovah's holy spirit". I clearly stated that, "I will not be interrogated in my own home".Remember?So, are they? Geoffrey Jackson has been called to take the stand, you know?He's been in Australia for the past two weeks. Please only reply in writing, as I will not receive phone or personal calls at this time.I am curious how you are feeling about this. thank you, K Trekkor Wills

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"Whether These Appear Sound From a Strategic or Human Standpoint or Not." - What do YOU think?

by jw07 in

http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/w20131115/seven-shepherds-eight-dukes/.

paragraph 17.

"at that time, the life-saving direction that we receive from jehovahs organization may not appear practical from a human standpoint.

kairos

Maybe they need to ask the GB member that has any conscience left him to show up and face the ARC, how preparing the sheep with fear and uncertainty with regards to future direction from... In this case, well... him.

That answer would be gold. PURE GOLD.

This can't be happening. Dreaming right? I died? Tell me!!

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Mr Jackson declines to appear in RC

by StarTrekAngel in

http://www.jw-archive.org/post/125844213823/geoffrey-jackson-declines-to-appear-before#at_pco=cfd-1.0&at_ab=per-15&at_pos=0&at_tot=14&at_si=55c27690475c6bb3

kairos

The reason is simple.

The ARC would ask him to prove that they are truly directed by holy spirit based on the failed policies to protect children from JW rapists. Then the general indifference shown the commission by the very ones that call and get the direction he is responsible for providing to the entire world wide church.

Especially the JC interrogations, shunning and two witness rule.

They might as well just have a JWBroadcast admitting that it was a for-profit, money-making scheme all along.

They'll just delete/DF the AUS elders that testified and pretend like nothing happened.

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If Jackson is not available due to compassionate reasons, can other GB member take his place?

by Viva la Vida in

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i would think the only christian organization on this planet would be more than willingly send another gb member to australia in order to answer rcs questions, taking the place of jackson who is taking care of his ill farther.

.

if someone should show compassion to jackson those are his gb pals.

kairos

Has a member of the ARC used the term "theocratic warfare".

man, I sure hope so!!

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Mandatory reporting and misprision

by Xanthippe in

day 7 of the australian royal commission has chair justice peter mcclellan raising the point that i have been wondering about all along, which is, how can these elders not report child abuse to the authorities especially when a full confession has taken place?.

justice mcclellan asked toole, the wts's lawyer, if he is aware that there is a difference between an organisation being required to have mandatory reporting of child abuse to the authorities and misprision which is the concealment of a felony, itself a criminal offence?

toole says he is aware of it now but he wasn't before!

kairos

There has to be consequences for the level of accountability before Ceaser.

Ouch!

The trial that put JF Rutherford in prison would be very interesting to review.
Where are those transcripts?

We all know the WT story, blah, blah, we're innocent, persecution, blah, Jehovah picked us to judge you for eternity or he will kill you and your family, blah, blah

The spin WT lays out in desperation will very likely not be "sound or strategic from a human stand point"!!

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/259430/whether-these-appear-sound-from-strategic-human-standpoint-what-do-you-think

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What JW's are afraid of~

by kairos in

just putting together a mental list:.

jehovah .

jesus.

kairos

I guess the new top of the list is:

The real fear that remaining loyal to the ORG will be meaningless when the WTS is no longer existent and their source of "nu-lite" has gone permanently dark.

Or for elderz:

Going to prison for "following orders".

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There is No Reason to be Afraid!! ( of Freedom )

by kairos in

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thinking of leaving the jws for good is frightening.engaging a quality fade is nerve racking!there can be horrible consequences that can leave one shunned.even the most careful fade can be undone by many means and loved ones.. one must weigh the consequences of leaving with true freedom.yes, that kind.

where you always make the decisions in your own life.. no need to be reckless and wild to destruction.

be like almost everyone else in society that enjoys life to the full and looks out for their fellow.look around you at happy, friendly people in your community.

kairos

There can be horrible consequences that can leave one shunned.
Even the most careful fade can be undone by many means and loved ones.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/93320002/exposing-ones-identity-when?size=10&page=4

Chilling.