having a believing spouse, but no longer having any desire to go to the meetings, or service, this is what i've come to call this space i'm in, and i'm sure a few others are in this same space.. nightowl .
I was in your spot for a short while before just quitting the JW's completely and fading.
My wife is still in. She went to the meeting this morning and service yesterday.
I quit hassling her about a week ago and things are going great.
Be patient, get solid on you decision to leave.
There is no reason to live under watchtower authority.
Why acknowledge the DFing or DAing doctrine?
I walked away.
the subject of the study was jesus resurrection .
my post is not about the subject and whether or not that can be believed in.
millions of christians do and it is not my place to debunk religious faith.
I also do enjoy the occasional topic on the current WT study.
Thanks for posting!
the 2014 grand totals page has been released onto facebook.. .
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i have started updating the statistics and graphs at jwfacts.com/watchtower/statistics.php, and will release highlights as i work through it during the rest of the day..
i won't say i got "caught" because that would imply i was keeping my habit hidden.
i'm tired of constantly doing that with these guys.
yesterday, my friend and i were waiting for some people and decided to smoke a cigarette to pass the time.
Is smoking 1 cig or less a day dangerous?
That's what I do.
yes- everyone has faults and makes mistakes; an organization even more so.. yet, you ignore all the fingers pointing at you.. many here have no faith.
many here go to churches who lie about everything biblical; look at x-mas!.
but at least we know god and christ and try to live up to their name!.
Maybe someone's counting their time while posting to this thread.
That would be very sly...
yes- everyone has faults and makes mistakes; an organization even more so.. yet, you ignore all the fingers pointing at you.. many here have no faith.
many here go to churches who lie about everything biblical; look at x-mas!.
but at least we know god and christ and try to live up to their name!.
Watchtower leadership make up doctrines that the JW's follow out of fear of expulsion.
There's other stuff, but this is the start/root of it in it's most basic form.
how many of us would get up and "start your time" by 6:00am or earlier?.
i sure did my fair share and convinced many others to join me semi-regularly.. we'd stand out in front of "somewhere/something", you remember?.
donut shop, 7-11, liquor store ( genius ), driving to laundry rooms or coin-op's, etc... anyway, this past sunday i was pumping fuel for the long trip home early in the morning out of l.a. to norcal, when i spotted a young, energetic version of myself 20 years ago.
That could be the ultimate reply to someone that charges another with apostasy:
"I was just pretending".
This plan can not fail!
i finally made it back here to our great forum community!.
after a few issues trying to get used to the new format, and after a few sign in issues, i'm back.... (sorry to simon for anything i may have done to complicate it.
i started a new username...which has since been deleted).
i mean, anyone with a real bible and half a brain doesn't need to log onto a website and read nonsense.. its not a bible study when you present someone a book or magazine to read along in.. its not the gospel, when its not about jesus.
so what is being pushed in the service meeting to be done at doors?.
and with what result expected?
Looking back, what ever was "our message"?
There are people that shun me who likely are unable to express their own hope, let alone teach it from the scriptures.
On the odd occasion when my wife listens to the meeting over the phone, I cringe when a demonstrated field service presentation is heard. Total opposite of what really happens at 99.9% of the doors. Painful.
how many of us would get up and "start your time" by 6:00am or earlier?.
i sure did my fair share and convinced many others to join me semi-regularly.. we'd stand out in front of "somewhere/something", you remember?.
donut shop, 7-11, liquor store ( genius ), driving to laundry rooms or coin-op's, etc... anyway, this past sunday i was pumping fuel for the long trip home early in the morning out of l.a. to norcal, when i spotted a young, energetic version of myself 20 years ago.
The conversation ended abruptly with him backing away "like a crawdad back into his hole".
I'll never forget that illustration used by an especially feisty Circuit Overseer.
The young JW pioneer will either have to pretend he did not hear my words or he'll battle with himself to prevent the doing of independent research.
