Thank you but I think I'll pass
:)
two ironys here... first of all the title "keep in expectation as jehovahs day draws near" - (this talk is from 2006!!
) i suppose 11 years isnt near enough.
second is that geoffrey jackson, of all people, is giving a talk that goes on and on about liars and how jehovah never lies.
Thank you but I think I'll pass
:)
steve2: is there some way this can be presented so that it is crystal clear what was actually in the demonstrations and what was added?
i guess some will think it should be obvious - but this is where misunderstandings arise because we end up wrongly attributing something to jw organization that was never said.. circuit assembly theme: maintain love for jehovah!.
note to speaker: warmly encourage young ones to prove their friendship with jehovah by observing his commandments and defending his standards.
When Jehovah stuffs the life out of 8.5 BILLION people He will make sure
that each knows that He doesn't hate them
:)
Re: steve2
Watch Tower has been relying on an infusion of youth for as long
as I can remember (and that's a long time)
I've seen a lot of folks forgotten in Seniors' Homes
No Elder's (ironic) visits as time can't be counted,
I don't remember any CO visit where bros were encouraged to visit the elderly
It's been stated "any society is judged by how it treats it's most vulnerable
members"
I judge "The Society" as being sick
Encourage the young lemmings to "Not Give Up"
That's the way it's always been
:(
Maybe a "worldly" person would think that the JWs are trying
to encourage folks in view of the Trump Presidency
:0)
i am interested in finding out on a small scale the extent of which shunning has impacted on you personally.. my own experience is that when i faded about 12 years ago.
the woman whose house the book study was held at (and who was virtually a neighbour) walked right past me in my own street.
i remember it so well.
Re: scratchme1010
"I shunned them"
I like this idea,
I takes away their sense of control
It pokes at their sense of self righteousness
The Gospel writers had something to say about the latter
I was appalled by Deborah Frances White's story
of being detained in a Vancouver KH
For interrogation
Above the law even, apparently,
There's a joke that goes around about if everlasting life involves
Living forever with Jehovah's Witnesses
They're not interested
I concur
:0)
at the meeting today, we were reading the watchtower and this elder apologetically said to such a degree in regards to romans 5:12 that "we humans are not worthy of any mercy from jehovah.
we shouldn't even have free will because we can't possibly do anything good enough to please jehovah.
we don't even deserve life because of sin.
This teaching permeates Christendom
Based on scriptures like Roman's 5:12
This rationale leads to practices such a as self-flagellation
That monks perform in monasteries over the centuries
"Take that you worthless piece of crap!"
It's this same sick rationale that abusers use to keep their victims in
check
Believers don't seem to get that the original template originates with
the God of the Bible
Works wonders in building self esteem (sarcasm)
Nice
no doubt we have all heard that well used "illustration" in public talks etc over the years:.
"if you were handed a glass of water that looked pure, but were told it has just a tiny drop of poison in it, would you drink it?".
the society has used that illustration at length to say we should avoid all influences of every part of the world.. but, as we know, the society has had a track record of errors, false ideas and doctrines.
Ironically, I believe they also use that illustration to help people see the
need to be critical of the religion that they're in,
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as in today's study.... 18 to lie is to say something untruthful.
(as in millions now living will never die, this generation will by no means pass away, allegations of pedophile abuse of children in congregations is apostate lies) however, jehovah wants his people to go beyond not telling outright lies.
he urged the ancient israelites: “you should be holy, because i, jehovah your god, am holy.” then he gave examples of being holy.
How, I was wondering if anyone here numbered and listed Jackson's lies
at the ARC
Thanks,
:0)
it has been 21 years since the 1995 article that pretty much buried the idea of the '1914 generation'.. remember those guys?
the ones born in 1914 that would still be alive when the end of the system arrived.. i'm glad i'm old enough to remember going from door to door, preaching this belief.
the reason i say that is because i have a lot of 'still in' jw friends and family.
"Those who fail to learn from history are destined to repeat it"
I've tried during my life to figure out people and religion
People, women, going up over 10 flights of stairs on their knees,
Stopping on each step to offer prayers,
MuslIm emerges from a mihrab, in tears, emotionally exhausted to be
comforted by family,
The ritual of mass sometimes daily,
Older folks "old faithfuls" going to "meetings" 3 times a week,
Ministry
The commonalities here between these groups are greater than their
differences,
The greatest book the Watch Tower produced was "Mankind's Search for
God"
It gave an understanding of where religion came from
It quoted Anthropologists
Most importantly Witnesses could read it without reprisal!
One thing I learned about all the examples above and later from fellow
Witnesses
They all DO NOT want to examine their religion
Do you know the story of "The Emperor's New Clothes"?
In the modern day application the people CAN'T see the truth,
To me it's apparent that they don't want to
They can't "handle the truth"
And in the modern version they silence the little boy as well
:0)
http://www.orlando-times.com/the_journey_of_jalessa_526.html.
the orlando times.
home.
Good reporting betterdaze!
Sister's already in trouble
Time to start that housecleaning biz
She seem nice enough
It's just that JWs have a lot of restrictions
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