Posts by RichardHaley

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Supreme Court ruling- refusing to photo gay wedding is discrimination

by SadElder in

according to bloomberg news:.

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2014-04-07/wedding-photographer-rebuffed-by-top-court-on-same-sex-ceremony.

"the u.s. supreme court turned away an appeal from a new mexico wedding photographer found to have violated a state anti-discrimination law when she refused to take pictures of a commitment ceremony for a same-sex couple.. the photographer, elaine huguenin, argued unsuccessfully that she was being unconstitutionally forced to convey a message conflicting with her religious beliefs.

RichardHaley

I can't believe I read this whole thread... that's what happens when you can't sleep!

The choice/born that way discussion has always fascinated me. Some things you can't change (born that way) obviously but I think that sometimes the "born that way" argument is used as an excuse for not wanting to make necessary changes in ones thinking or attitude.

I had a business for a little over 20 years and can honestly say that a clients sexual preference didn't concern me, I was more worried about if their check was going to bounce.

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Scriptural Basis for Obedience to GB?

by mrhhome in

jw
friends

i have a genuine question for the jw apologist.

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what is your scriptural justification for your unquestioning obedience to the governing body and your unwillingness to question their intepretation of scripture?.

RichardHaley

@SAHS great post!

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I hope this is the right place for this...

by moSIS in

please don't attack me if this is the wrong place!

i know that i definitely shouldn't be on this website, but i am to embarassed to ask anyone at my hall!

everyone would be so nice, but i just feel like i should know the answers already.

RichardHaley

That 2nd CO meeting during their visit is being done away with after the 1st of next year anyway, so you will have no need to prepare for another!

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Daniel chapter 9

by Doug Mason in

i have scanned daniel chapter 9 as it is rendered in english by the hebrew tanakh (masoretic text - mt) and by the greek septuagint (lxx).. http://www.jwstudies.com/daniel_9_in_mt_and_in_lxx.pdf.

read verses 24 to 27 carefully.. doug.

RichardHaley

mark

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Congregation By Laws?

by tootired2care in

perhaps this was already discussed in another thread, if so i apologize in advance; but i was visiting some family several months back and we get into a conversation about their local congregation.

one of my family members helps with some of the book keeping in that congregation.

after a while he started talking about how the elders received some wierd letter from the society stating something to the effect that the congregation must put together or enforcing something for "corporate by laws" or "congregation by laws" - i'm not sure which.

RichardHaley

"Page 3, Article XI - DISSOLUTION

Upon dissolution of the Congregation, after paying or adequately providing for debts and obligations of the Congregation, the remaining assets shall be distributed to Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York, Inc."

That is the line that means owned by WTBS.

Dispurse the members to other halls then disolve the non-profit religious corp, sell the property and monies go to WTS.

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CONGREGATION FLEECING RESULTS?

by The Searcher in

how much did your congregation and its bank account get taken for?

share your horror story!.

RichardHaley

Local KH with 85 pubs (down from 102)

Passed resolution last night to commit to KHF expence of $500.00 per month. In the past only 50 - 100 was donated monthly.

This was based on slips of paper turned in annomosly for the last two weeks.

KH was remodled this year and completely paid for in advance. This KH was also built with local money (no WTS loans) in 1965 so has never had a loan payment. Have been under pressure in the past to buy property and build new but BOE has always been able to avoid this.

IMHO the pubs have bit off more than they can chew but only time will tell.

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The List, by "Prominent Bethelite"

by morloc in

i occasionally pop through here to catch up on the latest, but this time i'm going to pop my own post on here.. some of you internet oldsters may even remember this.

my first experience on the internet regarding discussions about jehovah's witnesses and the watchtower took place on a now-obscure usenet group, before i eventually stumbled across hourglass2.. during those days, there was a poster who went by the name "prominent bethelite," an otherwise anonymous individual whom i remember most for an extensive, exhaustive compilation of date-oriented remarks, predictions, and expectations by the watchtower organization down through the decades of its history.. it became known as "the list" and it's definitely lengthy... but a fascination look at the abundance of errant statements made through the watchtower's history.. if you're curious, it's been available for a long time on hourglass2's site, and can be seen using the link provided below.. the list, compiled by prominent bethelite (1999).

that's about it for this stop through here.

RichardHaley

marked

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Today's wt study! Notice the faults?

by stuckinarut2 in

did we all notice the way in which this weeks wt study (how to maintain a positive viewpoint) was all about keeping the flock positive even if they feel they are not doing enough in 'service'?.

the irony is that the very reason they feel stressed or worthless is because of the pressures the org puts on them to perform!!!.

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RichardHaley

I could't get any father than par 8 without loosing intrest.

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QFR August 15, 2014 - Resurrection and Marriage

by wisdomfrombelow in

the article addressed luke 20:34-36 and now they finally admit jesus could have been referring to the heavenly resurrection.

they said "put simply, the answer is that we cannot say" which is surprising because they have something to say about everything.

perhaps all the old people who are waiting the new world as widow and widowers want to know if they have a chance to be reunited with their dead loved one.

RichardHaley

Just reciently looking at another thread on this but can't remember where. One poster said Jesus was avoiding a loaded question from the Saducees in the contex of levitical/brother in-law marriage. If ressurected to everlasting life/imortality then this mosiac law is not needed since they would be like angles...(never dying) therefore the reason for Jesus answer. Makes sense, of course that dosen't automaticly make it true... just saying.

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Sister kills a boy in an accident! A sad, sad story in more ways than one.

by DATA-DOG in

http://www.kansascity.com/2014/03/22/4909006/youth-struck-killed-in-kansas.html.

a buddy of mine told me about this story.

a sister driving through a neighborhood struck two children, killing one.

RichardHaley

According to the good book... Jah only gives us the strength to endure what ever comes our way and the guidelines to minimize self-infliction (shooting ourselves in the foot). After that it is a free for all (time an unseen occurances) with S in charge. HE dosen't tamper with the wheather so more bibles can be printed while 20 some JWs are swept out to sea huddling in thier KH. One may not know what to belive exactly but common sense can rule out most senerios belived buy the gullable. Where the heck is spell check when you need it!