FAQ's to WTS
Do JW's break up families?
No, we encourage families to stay together.
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berrygerry
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The JW religion has just cost me my marriage & my family life
by jambon1 inafter leaving the organisation 10 years ago i fought with everything i had to stay in my marriage and with my three children.
after a tumultuous number of years trying to maintain a happy family life while living in a divided home, it's finally over.
the religion is single handedly responsible for destroying my marriage and my family.
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A big hello and thank you
by iwasblind ini just wanted to introduce myself and say a big hello to all of my mentally diseased friends.. i say friends because i have been lurking for some time so it feels like home (us lurkers are a bit scared and cautious so it takes a while).
i won't bore you with too many details, but i am a born in, currently serving as the cobe of a congregation.
my wife and i have pioneered for the last 10 years and were shaken awake by that ridiculous 15th july 2013 wt about the generation and 1914.. my wife who is much smarter than me has questioned for years.
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berrygerry
You are in an enviable, and yet, incredibly, challenging situation.
Your luck in having your spouse at your side in this journey cannot be under-emphasized.
How to exit - gracefully, subtly, notably - it is a challenge with no perfect answer.
As I presently have the movie Alien running in the background, I am at the scene where Ripley has found Newt, and the queen is laying eggs.
Ripley hesitates, and then decides to toast those eggs.
Why?
One would presume to prevent other aliens from capturing and enslaving her fellows as Alien-progenerants.
Alien Lett (on behalf of "our mother") - "Baptize your pre-teens to us."
I want Ripley on my children's' side - "Get away from [them], you bitch."
Find a way, if you can, to save others.
Do they not deserve salvation?
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An experience at Bethel
by joe134cd ini was just thinking of something i observed on a visit to bethel some years back, that at the time struck me as odd, but now that i look back on it, it might be revealing about their financial situation.
please feel free to agree/disagree with me and also bear in mind this is some years back so my memory may be sketchey.
i remember walking into the front entrance of the bethel to do a tour.
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berrygerry
There has always been an outward appearance that the organization is poor,
Agreed.
If one carefully listens to Lett's words, he says that our PROJECTED outflow ...
That could mean many different interpretations.
They could be increasing their DESIRED expenditures by any percentage, even double than in previous years.
Thus, if they usually receive a certain amount each year, they would be short for their DESIRED expenditures.
Doesn't mean squat.
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An experience at Bethel
by joe134cd ini was just thinking of something i observed on a visit to bethel some years back, that at the time struck me as odd, but now that i look back on it, it might be revealing about their financial situation.
please feel free to agree/disagree with me and also bear in mind this is some years back so my memory may be sketchey.
i remember walking into the front entrance of the bethel to do a tour.
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berrygerry
It happened in Calgary, Simon.
Dude was obtaining and reselling unfranked stamps. Was convicted. Sentenced with provisions.
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Should I Make My Wife Watch the May Broadcast?
by TTATTelder infor some background, i am still in.
still an elder.
very much awake.
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berrygerry
No.
Watch "Going Clear" instead.
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Relief Work: Alberta Flooding
by StephaneLaliberte insummary:.
jehovahs witnesses claim to use portion of the contributions given to the world wide work funds for relief work.
unfortunately, as shown by the alberta flooding video, they seem to have a greater interest in reporting (or advertising) it than they are in actually releasing funds for such work.. introduction.
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berrygerry
Did the end come, and I missed it?
https://ca.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20130621212807AA1U1LV
The end is coming near but people remain arrogrant?
Rambling post, including "My family and ancestors predicted and books tell me that Canada will flood. U.S.A will also submerged with water. "
But then, we have someone counting time:
" you know. Your right, we are nearing the end. You need a Bible study. Next time one of Jehovah's witnesses comes to your door, talk to them or go to jw.borg and request a visit.
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I asked where is the proof?
by disillusioned 2 inarguing with my husband again, i asked where is the proof that jesus looked down on earth in 1919 and chose a small group of bible students in america apart from them saying it in their magazines.
also where is the proof that satan and his demons were cast down in 1914 just because first world war started.
neither of these things are in the bible only in their magazines.
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berrygerry
Disillusioned: DO NOT go on the offensive. Tell him you NEED HELP to confirm this. He's is your "head". It is his responsibility.
YOU WILL LOSE confronting a cultist.
That having been said - 3 big problems with 1914.
1. WTS used to say that there had never been such an optimistic, peaceful period immediately prior to 1914. (See Note 1). However, the handful of quotations used by WTS are not only cherry-picked, but taken out of context.
For example, Google https://www.google.com/search?q=what+led+up+to+ww1&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
The one result worth a quick read ( http://www.infoplease.com/encyclopedia/history/world-war-i-causes.html#ixzz3aMOISOpB ) shows that " Prominent causes were the imperialistic, territorial, and economic rivalries that had been intensifying from the late 19th cent." It specifies around 1870, just before CTR's investigations.
2. Jesus won the war in heaven on Oct 2, 1914, according to WTS. WW1 began in July/August. How did Satan, in the real mother of all wars, have a time-out from Michael to spent months on earth to create the conditions for WW1. Sounds like some behinds-the-scene cooperation to me. (Or just plain, old BS).
3. The FDS was not appointed (newer light) until 1919. Then why did Jesus or Jehovah provide "spiritual food" of this prophecy of 1914 of such critical importance to anyone but the FDS? What was the status of the person(s) who received this "prophecy" or "spiritual food?"
Note 1 - WT May 1, 1992 - Suddenly, in August
“The spring and summer of 1914 were marked in Europe by an exceptional tranquillity,” wrote British statesman Winston Churchill. People were generally optimistic about the future. “The world of 1914 was full of hope and promise,” said Louis Snyder in his book World War I.
True, for many years there had been intense rivalry between Germany and Britain. Nevertheless, as historian G. P. Gooch explains in his book Under Six Reigns: “A European conflict appeared less likely in 1914 than in 1911, 1912 or 1913 . . . The relations of the two governments were better than they had been for years.” According to Winston Churchill, a member of Britain’s 1914 cabinet: “Germany seemed with us, to be set on peace.” -
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Today my son told me that he can't stand this religion
by hardtobeme ini have talked to him ttat.
and he understands.
he doesn't wanna be a jw.
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berrygerry
She told me that she doesn't know. I asked her: "Faction before blood?" She said: "I don't know". I asked her all those questions before my other kid. He told her: "you are stupid, how are you gonna turn in your own dad?"
Do NOT cause CD. Read Hassan's book(s).
My wife tells me that we have to "help" him. That she has seen that he prefers friends outside the congregation, that those kids are bad association and that someday I will regret it if he leaves the truth. ( She doesn't know that that is my plan with the whole family).
My deepest regret was in preventing our children from developing friendships and social skills.
JW's, by and large, are the most socially inept (besides Amish) that exist. Even Scientoligists and certainly, Mormons, know how to have a conversation with non-members.
The same cannot be said for the average Dub.
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Geoffrey Jackson Bio!
by elkatire1980 inin the watchtower august 15 in the topic: "let the many islands rejoice" appears the following paragraph: .
then, however, it came time for a serious decision.
would i accept a scholarship to go to university?
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berrygerry
This reminds me of Freddie Franz who said he was offered a Rhodes schorlarship for Oxford but when someone on this forum checked he had never even applied.
You misunderstood.
This was for the "traveling work."
A Roads Scholarship.
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Geoffrey Jackson Bio!
by elkatire1980 inin the watchtower august 15 in the topic: "let the many islands rejoice" appears the following paragraph: .
then, however, it came time for a serious decision.
would i accept a scholarship to go to university?
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berrygerry
Also, he doesn't actually say he was offered a scholarship. He just asks the question, "Would I accept a scholarship?" and then blah blah blah I left school and started pioneering.
WTS is a master of asking a question (so that years later, it is proved as BS, and they can say "We never said that.) as a means of manipulation.
A few samples are:
Did Elijah also feel a bit hesitant about delegating some of his responsibilities, sharing his privileges, or someday being replaced? We cannot say;
How far east did early Christian evangelizers go? We cannot say for sure, since the Bible does not comment on this. However,
Was God referring to the faithful angels? We cannot say definitely. However,