Posts by darkspilver

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May 22 1969 Awake!

by zeb in

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"if you are a young person you need to face the fact you will never grow old in this system of things.. why not?

because all the evidence in fulfilment of bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years...as a young person you will never fulfil any career that this system offers".

may 22 awake!

darkspilver

Hey zeb!

sorry, but Damascus kinda reminded me

May 22 Awake! of 1969.
(This was removed from public access)
[snip]
old cd's of the library

The first WT CD Library actually only contained the Awake! going back to 1980 - a couple of years later it was expanded to go back to 1970 - but no further - and that hasn't changed, the current CD goes back to 1970.

Sure you can complain all you want that they've decided not to go back further on the CD (and I wish they would) but you can't complain they've removed something that didn't exist in that CD format in the first place

Yes it is an important quote - which is why I took the time to scan and upload the full article earlier on this thead - here is a new link to all 15 pages, just in case anybody hasn't got it yet

Link to scans Awake 22 May 1969

Awake! 22 April 1994, pages 20 to 23

Link to scans Awake 22 April 1994

The Compact Disc—What Is It All About?
Watchtower Library CD-ROM: The Watchtower Society has always seen fit to use appropriate technological developments in advancing Kingdom interests. In the past the Society was among the first to use color motion pictures, radio networks, and the portable phonograph in proclaiming the good news. Now, the Watchtower Society has released in English the Watchtower Library - 1993 Edition. We feel sure it will prove to be a marvelous tool for Bible study and research.
This new release is truly a library. It contains the text, in electronic form, of the New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures—With References, the annual bound volumes of The Watchtower from 1950 to 1993 and Awake! from 1980 to 1993, the two-volume Bible encyclopedia Insight on the Scriptures, and numerous other books, booklets, brochures, and tracts published by the Watchtower Society since 1970. In addition, it contains an index to all Watchtower publications from 1930 to 1993.

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Advanced Warning I - WT August 2016 "Study" articles re "Reaching Out"

by Nicholaus Kopernicus in

the brief outline for this item makes reference to the most recent wt on the subject of "reaching out" (august 2016 - pages 20 - 29) if you are a jehovah's witness and thinking about becoming a ministerial servant or elder, then please consider the following information prior to attending the kh for this week’s wt “study” and the week after.

first - if you hope to become an elder, in the uk you will also become a charitable trustee.

you will not be given any training for this part of your role.

darkspilver

Hi Landy!

Is it now mandatory that you have to become a trustee on appointment to an elder?
What if you can't become a trustee*, would that also prevent you from ever becoming an elder?
*Undischarged bankrupt or an IVA/Criminal conviction involving dishonesty/Disqualified as company director

I understand that, if you were an elder still, you would formally withdraw from being a trustee (ie the congregation secretary would not just delete you, but a letter would be written to the Charity Commission.)

And presumably if you were to be made an elder (ie what would have been a new trustee), a letter would to sent to the CC confirming you were not a trustee.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwqmWMK7dwtlSG40YUg2RTJPZVE/view

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwqmWMK7dwtlMWxVaFg5V01uWFU/view

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Advanced Warning I - WT August 2016 "Study" articles re "Reaching Out"

by Nicholaus Kopernicus in

the brief outline for this item makes reference to the most recent wt on the subject of "reaching out" (august 2016 - pages 20 - 29) if you are a jehovah's witness and thinking about becoming a ministerial servant or elder, then please consider the following information prior to attending the kh for this week’s wt “study” and the week after.

first - if you hope to become an elder, in the uk you will also become a charitable trustee.

you will not be given any training for this part of your role.

darkspilver

Hi Saename

darkspliver, I believe this quote is from the video recordings of the investigation. You can find the videos on Youtube, but I don't know on which day it was said, assuming that it was said, of course.

Thanks, yeah, the video recordings are all transcribed and available on the ARC's website - therefore I've already tried doing a key word search, but nothing turns up :( - that's why I was asking ;)

http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.aspx

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Advanced Warning I - WT August 2016 "Study" articles re "Reaching Out"

by Nicholaus Kopernicus in

the brief outline for this item makes reference to the most recent wt on the subject of "reaching out" (august 2016 - pages 20 - 29) if you are a jehovah's witness and thinking about becoming a ministerial servant or elder, then please consider the following information prior to attending the kh for this week’s wt “study” and the week after.

first - if you hope to become an elder, in the uk you will also become a charitable trustee.

you will not be given any training for this part of your role.

darkspilver

Hi zeb!

"These Jehovah witness elders are shown themselves to be woefully ignorant of standard practices in the real world, seriously unprepared for the hearings, completely lacking in compassion for the victim and untrained to be real shepherds and all have consistently poor memories."
Australian Royal Commission.

all the ARC stuff is online isn't it, I've looked, but can't find the above quote - where did you find it?

Was it said by the ARC Chair, or in one of the submissions / statements made at the ARC, rather than by the ARC?

I'm not disagreeing with the quote, just wondering with how it's presented

TIA

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Beth Sarim

by HereIgo in

how many of you know about this san diego mansion?

i just found out about it recently.

apparently it was built for old testament faithful men to live in upon resurrection in 1925 such as abraham, moses etc.

darkspilver

It seems it started in 1928 when the WT taught that some of the annointed remnant would survive Armageddon and would still be on earth to welcome back resurrected faithful ones of old - and therefore, by building and preparing a house that these faithful ones could live in, was a display of the faith that the WT had that these events would actually happen.

Watchtower 15 December 1928, paragraphs 35 and 36

35 Following the great battle, as indicated by the words of the prophet, there comes a time of blessing upon the people, and in this the remnant will have some part. "And the remnant of Jacob shall be in the midst of many people, as dew from the Lord, as the showers upon the grass, that tarrieth not for man, nor waiteth for the sons of men." (Micah 5:7) The remnant are shown in the midst of the people as "dew from the Lord" and as "showers upon the grass", and these words indicate comfort and blessings to the people. This may be taken as an indication that some of the remnant will be on earth even after Armageddon is fought and will then have some more work to do in the name of the Lord and to his praise and glory. The people, having passed through the great and terrible trouble, will no longer look to men for help nor watch for the sons of men to bring them aid and comfort but will turn to the Lord and gladly hear his Word. Some creatures will have the privilege, as the Lord’s agents and messengers, of bearing the message of peace to the people.
36 The remnant of the Lord, according to this prophecy, will go on to triumph in the strength of Jehovah. A lion is a monarch among the beasts of the forest, and none can stand before him. The flocks of sheep are without power against a strong and young lion amongst them. Thus the faithful remnant of God is described by the prophet. These shall be amidst the nations of many people strong and vigorous in the name of the Lord to help those that want help and to point out God’s method of destroying those that resist. The 'hand lifted up against the adversaries' means that God's power will be exercised against all adversaries and all enemies of the people shall be cut off. "And the remnant of Jacob shall be among the Gentiles in the midst of many people as a lion among the beasts of the forest, as a young lion among the flocks of sheep; who, if he go through, both treadeth down, and teareth in pieces, and none can deliver. Thine hand shall be lifted up upon thine adversaries, and all thine enemies shall be cut off." (Micah 5:8, 9) These words of the prophet seem to warrant the conclusion above suggested.

Link to scans

Golden Age 19 March 1930, pages 403 to 407

(main portion begins on page 405, preamble included for reference)

Watchtower 15 March 1937, page 86

(see paragraphs 17 and 18)

s 311-312;

Watchtower 1 June 1940, page 162

(small piece, bottom right, False Reports)

Consolation 27 May 1942, pages 3 to 9

The New World 1942, pages 104 and 105

Let Your Name Be Sanctified 1961, pages 335 and 336

Yearbook 1975, pages 193 and 194

Jehovah's Witnesses - Proclaimers of God's Kingdom 1993, page 76

Watchtower 1 November 1950, pages 414 to 417

(referenced in Proclaimers Book re change in doctrine)

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Missing Thread: "Kingdom Cookies" and Worshiping a Rock From Bethel

by Nevuela in

anyone know what happened to that thread?

i remember reading it a few weeks back, but now i can't find it with any of the search terms that i included in the title of this thread.

basically it was about jws viewing bethel as the holy land and objects from it as sacred, which included cafeteria cookies dubbed "kingdom cookies" and one brother showing off a piece of broken concrete from a construction site at bethel, to the oohs and ahhhs of his fellow r&f.. was that a thread of its own, or were some folks just talking about it in an unrelated thread?.

darkspilver

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5961096580038656/worshiping-piece-stone

and the cookies are about the 9th post down on the above thread

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Wollongong, New South Wales, Australia!

by darkspilver in

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from the front page of jw.org.

same view on google street view .

https://goo.gl/maps/b9wnsnxzu2r.

darkspilver

From the front page of jw.org

same view on google street view

https://goo.gl/maps/b9wNSnXZu2r

It's the corner of Weaver Terrace and Hill Street, up on the south side by Sandon Point Reserve

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WOW - 18 Elders in ONE congregation!!!

by The Searcher in

hazel grove congregation in stockport, cheshire, u.k.. not only is the congregation saturated with elders, it is/was pretty well saturated with cash - according to its 2014 financial statement to the charities commission.

http://apps.charitycommission.gov.uk/accounts/ends82/0001066282_ac_20140331_e_c.pdf.

its elders are listed as frank broadhurst, nick ashton, nigel bailey, noel crossley, peter davies.

darkspilver

Looks like they've recently sold their own KH and moved in with the Stockport Central Congregation, whose KH seems to have had a significant extension built in 2013

Oh, and London Mill Hill with 19 elders - though that might be a bit unfair.

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The Great October 2016 Invite to the Sunday Meeting campaign ...

by freddo in

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friends

well how's it going round your way?

massive increase of interested ones?

did you even know it was supposed to be happening?

darkspilver

Hey OnTheWayOut!

I knew nothing of a campaign.

Hey Saename!

How did I not know this?

Because you don't read this forum?

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5662759379271680/october-2016-campaign

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5635527539687424/campaign-invite-people-meetings

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The Great October 2016 Invite to the Sunday Meeting campaign ...

by freddo in

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friends

well how's it going round your way?

massive increase of interested ones?

did you even know it was supposed to be happening?

darkspilver

Hi steve2!

I thought they stopped putting attendances on noticeboards decades ago. Are they now doing it again?

Depends on congregation, some do, some don't - but having it on the notice means it's more likely to be remembered to be actully done

Loved their recording how many are listening "online"!

Remember that those listening 'live' are counted as part of the meeting attendance, whereas those listening later via a recording, are not.

May 25, 2015: Re: Guidelines for Congregation Meeting Conferencing Systems

Attendants should record as meeting attenders the number of those tied in to the live meeting. Those benefiting from delayed streaming or recordings would not be counted.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwqmWMK7dwtlUFVKaDdVaFRncEk/view