Atheism. Welcome to the one religion with a worse retention rate than JWs. Congratulations. Both Atheists and JWs have men for gods and are therefore a "religion" or the definition of a "cult" which are followers of other men. Academia, politics and philosophy are also religious cults, the gods merely vary but are all human and it is all systems of "work for" or worship. Most people "fall out" of Atheism on their own though, most JWs are booted out or leave on matter of conscience. The JW system loops people like a digestive cycle, new fodder enters the Bethel mouth everyday and cares not what has been passed through the system as waste—after Bethel has sucked out as much nutrition for themselves as possible.
Good luck with that attempt of faith, because Atheism takes more faith than believing there is a God. I guess Satan is a matter of faith as well and in the story he would have hoped Job drew the same conclusion as you seem to think will work for you. But the development turned out otherwise in the case of Job. It seems Atheists and JWs are the ones now grappling the most with their faith because to fall out of Atheism I guess one believes some sort of intelligent source of vast universal energy must exist. It takes great faith believing the massive energy requirement of the physical simply spontaneously generates from pure nothingness. It is not truth in essence, it is faith. People have faith Einstein got it right. But we know the "quantum" and the "relativity" realms do not merge properly as they would, as they should, if Einstein had the whole picture. Man has most of it wrong, but considers it truth anyways, when in fact it takes faith to consider error the truth. The whole human world, one way or another, is based on faith in this and that.
If you allow anger and frustration to be the backbone of your faith you will prevail as an Atheist. imo, how can blaming God and being so angry with him equate instead to there being no God? The basic drive to Atheism, imo, is a weird conundrum that used anger at God as the basis for proof of his non-existence. Very interesting psychological logic.
Maybe the real problem is that there actually is an evil spirit at work in the universe and in the works and direction of man, and he is not physical and he wants people to doubt Gods existence and to "curse God and die", the goal of true evil. He is anti-life, as are the human system activities on Earth, but it is a cycle merely permitted by God. True evil cannot exist in essence or in human beings and human systems without an origin. If God or nothing is the origin of the evils of this world, that are the ultimate source of anger and frustration, then we are all screwed; and true it appears to be such. But it does not alleviate the role organized human evils play in man's and life's misery on earth. Maybe that i the problem "growth" that needs to be removed. Atheism does not address the true problem of the human being, it gives an escape to attempt to serve a lifetime. But the stats show most people find Atheism unsatisfactory. May be due to the basic conundrum of its "logicalness".
But maybe there is more to the whole story. Those who keep looking for more to the story, not less (the no God theory), are the ones that cannot deal with Atheism which ultimately requires the lobotomy of basic physical understanding. If there is no God, there can be no energy, energy was created, but it could not have been produced from non-energy. The foundation of many of the human laws of physics have fundamental flaws, none of them truly deal with the creation of physical energy, they deal with it after the fact via things like "big bang" which really do not address the essence of the appearance of massive energy, energy beyond human computation.
There is a God and there is an adversary of all life in this universe, and hopefully Atheism proves as unsatisfying to you as it has to millions of others, imo. The more you look and deal with the negativity by understanding humans do have evil, God is not a source of blame, then the more you will discover. And part of the discovery is mankind's lack of love, lack of God in actual life mission, is why even religions turn evil—in fact they lead the pack. The hardest direct command is loving everyone, and thus not loving God is a by-product of hatred in its essence. And that hatred and other vices of humanity is the source of the global planetary system ills. It is not with God, it is not with the universal life basis, it is not with animals, the viral and destructive problem of this planet is human. Enough powerful human beings doing whatever they please through well developed systems of planetary and human predation. Greed certainly doesn't help the reality.
Of course addressing that "human" problem is enormous and it cannot be gradually applied unless human systems will attempt to address the problem, then it has to be incremental. One way or another the evils of man on a limited planetary system of actually great internal power will equate to an abruption from the life system itself, or from another source, because man is not the most powerful being in the life system, the life system is. In mans "man versus nature" war, nature will win. Nature has not even thrown the first punch yet, but it will.
You can choose to help others anyway you can, that is really all we can do that makes life have meaning. Atheism aids predatory behavior for there is only the law of the jungle as the basic truth. The rest is fluff to protect the wealth centers and to try to keep a roof over a few people's heads, imo. Respecting the law of love of a higher Being will have its benefits, and death is not the end of the story, but the beginning of it. Man can take nothing with them but their record of activity in the planetary system it is all recorded in reality and light and man has an internal element that knows, thus accounting is necessary—even humans let no one off the hook without a judgment, thus it is part of the human consciousness, it is not that surprising humans are accountable. It never was God's fault, and He wants the admission of who is the guilty party on earth: the rebel human, imo.
Some will not make that admission, not my opinion but reality, and have already deemed themselves unworthy of the future reality in their own judgment of themselves imo, but the determination has to be made one way or the other, and not by the incapable human judge, and there is more time and another cycle to help humans make a truly freewill determination. As we know man's will is in slavery to various vices. Humans really cannot even judge ourselves properly is what I am saying, so this is a learning cycle.
If it wasn't a learning cycle God would have wiped man off the planet a long time ago, its obvious the root of human evil is old, it is history, and this is why, imo, people don't like history, it is bloody; meaning it was obvious from the get-go what the human experiment would equate to in time, especiallyto angelic minds that see clearly the meaning of the cycles. People can choose life as strange as it sounds now this late in the game, but the overall human system is anti-life at its collective predatory essence, and not in the way a predatory lion supports life, but in the way the human system respects no life. The human predatory system is preying on itself overall.
There is only so much time for the human experiment in the long run. Keep an open mind, you will find whatever it is you are really looking for. The human system of ills cannot cure itself, as well, from nothingness. But it will get the prescribed shot in time, because it is far more than just human life at stake. In time reality on earth must be addressed. Something beyond "some thing" considers your life valuable, imo. Death is not the ultimate power of the universe.
In my opinion, Atheism is an anti-answer. It just raises more questions it cannot answer and that is why, imo, people "fall out" of the Atheism "truth" even more than the little sampling of JWs. As religions they must have something in common to share such characteristic of low retention. But just because JWs devolved into a lie, like toher religions, doesn't mean the Bible is a lie, or God is a lie, or the Son of God is a lie, or the basic story of human history is a lie in the Bible record.
In fact such hypocrisy or unsatisfactory answer systems of human organization of lies-sold-as-truth is evidence the truth is in the basic thing being discredited: the Bible. ANd God. They take the brunt of the reproach, yet they are not the problem; people are.
And the real truth is personal, between the person and God. And God sent an agent that went through as bad a death as any human can possibly go through. So imo, Christ answered the question to the miserable condemned death, and that is enough for me. That is also enough for me to know this is not the end of the story, it is just starting to reach the start, the next cycle commencement and what must occur to activate it. Humans are who have a bigger problem coming than they think, and most of it is from our own planetary foreign system.
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MY CONCLUSION IS: 'GOD' DOESN'T EXIST
by NAVYTOWN ini have come to the conclusion that there is no god.
period!!!
if there was a loving, righteous, all-knowing, all powerful god up there somewhere, where is he and what good is he???
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Chinese Progress in their Move from a Government Financed Economy to a Private Economy
by fulltimestudent inthe chinese government is said to be about half way in the progress from a centralised command economy to a market driven, private enterprise economy.. .
link: http://www.canberratimes.com.au/business/china/private-capital-gets-more-bang-in-china-as-economic-reforms-step-up-20141023-11ah6z.html.
canberra times.
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Meaningless distraction imo. Russia, China and India, as examples, all scrapped socialism in 1990 and joined the worldwide market capital globalization effort with the Anglo-Americans. Thus "state capital" vs. "private capital" is pure baloney, even Communist USSR and China were private corporations themselves disguised as "government". Its all a ruse that led to a full globalization cycle after 1990. They all just happened to now create more billionaires in Russia, China and India than since their inception as nations—in 10 years! China even has a billionaire "landscape architect". LOL
American capital is made in China, recycled by the Fed (US Gov't bond loop), jammed globally by "enforced dependency", pumped as oil, and feeds ultimately the globalization of NATO military and the elements soon to be sucked into Global NATO (like Russia and China, they are already there, the rest is a ruse), so the stats show China has trillions in the global capital flow and that all began with the Berlin Wall going down as a symbol of the true globalization era amping up in earnest.
Russia, China and India were not in the pre 1990 currency and gold markets like they are today, all the markets now mirror the master cycle of Wall Street and that is since 2007. So globalization of global capital, to achieve that feat, requires all the big capital players to be playing the same game: globalization-to-world-government, the true uni-polar global corporation.
Everything else is just the distraction. WW1 and WW2 were multi-polar wars at a scale unknown prior. the Cold War was a true bi-polarity, and the final cycle of the future will achieve the uni-polarity (world government) the whole super-cycle has been forming since WW1. Those kinds of global power trends cannot be mere random coincidence. This is how we know the big elites of the big nations already know where the final cycle will end up in: world government, true uni-polarity.
Government and corporation always have been the same thing, merely smoke-screened with meaningless ideologies like capitalist, democracy and communist, it is ALL the same thing. And that is why, in the end, the Global Corporation will also be the World Government self-same super entity. It already was that entity, all the philosophical rhetoric was just the ruse, it answered no questions, it had no real meaning to true global reality, and it ultimately instead aided the world government consolidation as divided nations must fall under global corporate control in time.
In retrospect WW1 is the first cycle that started this whole momentum to world government. The global cycles and true global capital flows tell the real story of where it is headed. It is cyclic, WW1, WW2, Cold WW3, and the mega-event in store and coming up soon, the FOURTH globalization cycle that will complete the puzzle.IMO, world governemnt, sole global corporation top authority, by 2023, making global announcements of such intent by 2020. Six year global war cycle of some sort to begin soon, or develop from major global event or events soon. The recovery from that war "problem", will be the world governemnt "solution". Contrary to popular mythology, the next world war, even if semi nuclear, will NOT be the end. It will be better managed and engineered than all the three previous world wars, including the Cold War. (If we notice, the "Global War" "on Terror" is already phase 1 of that WW4, global war is the same as world war, it is just deployed and branded uniquely, like the Cold War).
Once world government appears, THEN start to worry. I feel they have no plans to take care of 8-10 billion people, if you know what I mean. A global weapons network, in sole control, is a scary thing really. But it is what will define the UN "world peace" that corporation will indeed bring for a while—by THEIR own definition.
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LET'S ASK the anointed GB some questions . . .
by Terry inokay mr. anointed governing body elder, tell me exactly.
q: how you know what jehovah wants "channeled" into the watchtower?.
1. j. f. rutherford, preparation, watch tower bible & tract society, 1933, page 64, 67, "enlightenment proceeds from jehovah by and through christ jesus and is given to the faithful anointed on earth at the temple, and brings great peace and consolation to them.
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Its a modern Papacy, merely updating the clown suit to the western corporate standard veneer well suited to politicians, con men and financiers and others who sell the packaging over the content.
JWs are package oriented, today they do not even know their own supposed content, and a billion dollar score, guarded by the brain dead and naive, is just to good of an opportunity for the global pros to pass up.
JWs will be 100% bankupted and defunct in 5 years, imo. The event will be a classic corporate takeover aided by a cyclic global event that will become, or be, global in extent, imo. Its a classic spiritual Ponzi scheme. JWs are the suckers who should have known better. In the Bethel elite strata is where the fox is, and that is where the billions are going.
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Similarity between Jesus and Jehovahs Witnesses
by Kalos inthere are numerous similarities between jesus and jehovahs witnesses.
to mention a few:.
1) both suspected they are anointed by god and started preaching work.. 2) both had some ambiguous references (which can be interpreted to suit any conclusion one likes to have) from the scriptures.. 3) friends and family members of both generally believed they were insane (mark 3:21), and religious experts attributed power of satan to the work being accomplished by both (mark 3:22).
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Well JWs are a clergy model contrary to the basics of Jesus Christ.
In that vein JWs surpass the mainstream churches, because though the Pope does not make Catholics wear his clown suit, the JW org "specialized dress code" makes the JW laity dress the same as their clergy.
Modern JWs do not resemble even pre 1950 JWs, much Jesus Christ, because Christ did not secretly promote the Roman Empire, while claiming to promote God's Kingdom, like that UN NGO "affair".
JWs on the other hand have all the "new world order" trappings of buzzwords, soundbites and the lemming-like obedience promoting under the guise of "God's Kingdom" actually the final communism of planet earth. They also have a 3rd UN "placement" UN NGO endorsement center piece at Bethel. What more do people need to see? Its comical, yet tragic.
JWs are just another elitist over-run stumbling ministry made to mislead its little JW sector, while stumbling million away from basic Bible truth which JWs have lost, as usual, by "traditions and doctrines of men".
By JW definition JWs are the latest brand of organized apostasy. IMO, the Apostle Paul wouldn't be caught dead in the JW ranks, and Jeremiah would be in stocks out in front of Bethel. JWs have nothing but presumption thinking they compare to the true witnesses of God. JWs represent Bethel billion dollar corporate interests and fusion into the global trans-national pantheon, of which Bethel is just another elitist overrun "operation of error".
But JWs are the freshest version of such blatant hypocrisy and form an interesting case study on how quickly a once well intentioned ministry can devolve into brazen apostasy, while most members feel it is "God's organization". We are witnessing a classic comedic apostate tragedy in the making, final act coming up soon. It is Bethel who is "the Apostate", so don't let JWs stick that label on you, it is JWs one should shun with their modified "good news" full of Bethel global scandal and "bad news" hypocritical antics.
It is a sad joke, and I do not blame poor JWs for what their billionaire leaders have done, and will do to that once sincere ministry. This is what happens when people start trusting mere men, and allow them to "lift themselves over everyone" and claim to be divine. What it equals is a divine ground zero, and Bethel is the bulls-eye—and no JW can say the uncommon few didn't see it coming, that some didn't see the "writing on the wall". IMO it will turn out worse than expected. At some point JWs will reap what has been sown right at Bethel.
Everyone and his mother knows the GB are lawless frauds except JWs. Ironic yet paradoxical, it truly is an apostate classic at work enabled by the unique Bethel tunnel vision and laughing gas tube isolating JWs from reality like lab mice. The experiment is almost complete, enter the Bethel Global Pied Viper now, JWs are quite used to the flute and song and dance. The premature "end of the world" delusion, as at 2Thess2:1-2, is what Bethel will use to smokescreen their exit with billions in JW loot and properties, and they, imo, will call off the ministry right from Bethel:Thanks, well done, go home, good bye JWs. See ya, wouldn't wanna be ya. The end will come, Bethel just did not clarify of what: it will be the end of Bethel as an organization and corporation, not the world. Someone has some juicy derivatives bets on Bethel's downfall, thus it will be two for the price of one when Bethel implodes globally for a couple bewildering years to JWs, imo. Someone is taking those billions home, and it will not be JWs.
The long and short is JWs, like Bethel, resemble Judas more than Christ, they even sell out and shun their own former brothers and sisters while Bethel milks them for supplies and resources. It actually is kind of sad. JWs sell out their own kind, to support hellbent men they do not even know. Truly stunning.
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Warwick Building Project Fluff Stories
by bruh2012 intalking about an article that makes you want to throw-up in your mouth- wt-study jan 15, 2015 the offered themselves willingly.. amazing the psych job of selling your business, moving your entire family, quiting your job to be a "temporary" worker at the new world headquarters!.
throw your livelyhood away only to get the "feeling" that jehovahs is blessing you!
i wish there was away to track the psych job during patterson and other major projects of what happened to all the "friends" that sold and got rid of their livelyhood then and where are they now.. did you ever sacrifce it all for a building project only to be left with nothing after your "spiritual high"?.
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Also Gill Nazroff who was head of the building program at the time and a real jerk we soon found out, told just my husband and I on our first day at Bethel to expect nothing from anyone. Gill said that he was 'so sick of people selling off everything and then running out of money and getting mad at Bethel for putting them in such a place.' Gill said 'no one made them come.' 'That Bethel even recived letters from ones who were broke with nothing and no one to help them asking Bethel why Jehoivah was not helping them.' But Gill told us 'it was not Bethel's fault nor Bethel's place to help them.'
Well if anyone cares to Google a little, Bethel has liquidated, in four years, about 700 million in US properties. And is Bethel going to tell me they cannot take care of a few ex-slaves? Imagine what they have liquidated internationally folks. And that is exactly what this is, LIQUIDATION of JWs has begun. That new HQ is 13 million, a DROP IN THE BUCKET for those Bethel billionaires.
They are a billion dollar racket, and the worse is yet to come for JWs as a whole. The thing exudes evil, under a holy man veneer of PURE PRESUMPTION and JW assumption. The writing has been on the wall for quite some time now.
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Two things that have really made me think.
by thedog1 injust got to say that two things i have found out on this forum have really made me think over the last year.
one is how the gb say that they were appointed in 1919 and how they always say that it was a small group of anointed ones, and they always stress that it was a collective group who did this.
but from this forum i have found out that really it was all judge rutherford's doing, that he was the sole kingpin at that time until his death in 1942, so no 'collective' slave.
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Yep, even JWs at one time told the truth about the "board":
"Pastor Russell, the president and the other officers of the Society had been the ones to decide on new publications; the board of directors, as a body, was not consulted.";
(From "Jehovah's Witnesses in the Divine Purpose" WTBTS; 1959; pg. 70, par. 4)Instead Rutheford had to fire half the board of his day. Think about it, he FIRED the supposed GB.
The GB thing is the 1976 dictatorial center of the Bethel apostasy. Of course the "evil slave" has no qualms claiming to be the "faithful slave", such duplicity is the earmark of apostasy at 2Cor11:13-15:
(2 Corinthians 11:13-15) 13 For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder, for Satan himself keeps transforming himself into an angel of light. 15 It is therefore nothing great if his ministers also keep transforming themselves into ministers of righteousness. But their end shall be according to their works.
And therein is the real Bethel reality. LIARS acting like apostles of Christ, that JWs forgot to "put to the test":
(Revelation 2:2) ‘I know your deeds, and your labor and endurance, and that you cannot bear bad men, and that you put those to the test who say they are apostles, but they are not, and you found them liars.
But not at JW land, at JW land the brazen Bethel apostates are, rather, the billionaire Kings of the Faith all on the JW hard earned dollar.
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"The Waters" of Jehovah are drying up in Australia...65% young ones leave!
by Witness 007 inat the international convention last week i caught up with my old congregation and asked about the young ones...there were 2 answers.
1. they flat out left got a boyfriend etc.
and 2. havent seen them for awhile meaning they faded or went off the grid so as not to be disfellowshipped.
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In reality the 1-3% growth now in JWs it TOTAL FICTION. I feel they actually dipped below 7 million, and laughingly are selling that to dumbed down JWs as 8 million, yet liquidating a BILLION in global real estate holdings. Thus they could easily sell a negative -1-3% growth just as easy as a measily 1-3% growth. They are at a suspicious margin. And only they produce their own numbers.
In reality the JW waters have been drying from the 1976 GB dam break, and you can check the stats to see 1976 is when the downward spiral began.
Now Bethel claims they are at "apex" of the ministry. They are at apex alright—of stumbled sheep due not to doctrine, but Bethel sin, scandal abd globally public lawlessness. THAT is why JWs are shrinking overall. Thousands are stumbling everyday by Bethel scandals all over the Web, far more than the 800 "coming to the truth" every day. In actual terms the JW growth is pathetic, the only group with worse "believer" retention is the atheists.
Think about it. JWs have THE WORST RETENTION RATE OF ALL THE CHRISTIAN RELIGIONS AND PROBABLY ANY RELIGION ON EARTH, because Bethel is a gnat straining UN NGO camel gulping apostate fraud ministry now.
In reality JWs are shrinking, and that shrinkage is in preparation for the biggest stumbling event of all Christian religious history to soon come on the "JW org". JWs will be lucky to have 3 million left when that hits, Bethel is going down, all the shadow indicative realities are already there.
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JWs- victims or volunteers?
by sparrowdown inare jws victims or volunteers?.
voluntary victims perhaps?.
i always assured householders who were concerned that i was being "forced".
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Well its a velvet gun to the head sort of subtle coercion, a sly guilt trip guised as "loving ones neighbor" when JWs actually feel they are saving their OWN behind.
And those kinds of say one thing, when it means something else in reality, is all over the JW complex of delusion. Everything we as JWs may have claimed, actually had an ulterior reality, even "undeserved kindness" is "deserved kindness". GB idolatry is "respect for those taking the lead", org idolatry is "a modern ministry much like the 1st century Christians", the UN is the "scarlet wildbeast" and ok to be a UN NGO co-promoting streetwalker for in spite of the fact.
In any event there is now much "plausible deniability" and duality in the JW ministry where the victim is the "blessed". Where obedience to men is obedience to God, where bad is good, dark is light.
But I feel JWs are really victims volunteering as you say, because the real nucleus of corruption all stems from the GB coup of 1976, that solidified all the modern apostate trends right in Bethel's modern neo-papal leadership. It is so blatant as to be hidden in plain sight, and mystified with what is just vain optimism and presumption, when in reality, according to its own Bible rule book, the place would be an apostate UN worshiping idolatry worthy of a divine pyre and Almighty permitted and required global conflagration of the entire JW organizational abomination regardless of the "smooth words" (Dan11:32a) of Bethel, it would be in reality the same spiritual doomsday Israel, as the main pattern, walked into on many occasions.
Its really the same thing, only a different date.
In reality Bethel are the ones "teaching a different sort of good news" that one would shun if they saw any of the GB apostates on the street. Its surreal in its own strange way, but it is what it is: uncanny.
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Who's the King of the North & South now?
by prophecor inback in the old days i used to hear talk about these kings.
are they still teaching anything about these kings in daniel as it pertains to the " time of the end?".
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Bethel believes in the "flat earth" theology. That is it is all Anglo-American empire King South, the world is not composed of two poles, nation-state south and globalized north. The ultimate world power is the UN sitting on 27 acres "co-ruling" with the bankrupted US/UK national "7th King". "Flat Earth" central, that's all there is, end of story, zzz, zzzz... ... zz.. .
Obviously the world does have two ultimate tiers of power national based and international in scope. So for Bethel to be acting as if the earth is flat is either they are too dumb, or they are in on it. Like Ace Rothstein said, "either way your out! get outta here!" lol
The reality is as the nation-state and globalized systems split the actual "round earth" global bi-polarity, the whole king "south" (nation-state) and north (globalization, international-state) also simplify while at the same time going global in scope. It is so simple and backed in the last 20 years of steroidal globalization so as to be very hard not to see what happens when Russia, China and India all scrap socialism and join the global capitalization effort for over twenty years. (and they aren't the only ones aiding globalization made explicit after the Cold War). Its about time to complete the process.
Bethel also ignores the post Cold War globalization reality which of course must form the international financial, military and governmental monopolizing components of world government. Globalization is the crystallization of world government, the end of its process. All it will take is one more global war cycle, which will NOT be "the end of the world", but the key accelerant, as before, to finalize this time the true "North" pole of global power—it will be an international uni-polar entity. King North, true "8th" "king". National systems such as the USSR never have been a true "north", albeit they did aid the bi-polar final national based development to uni-polarity, from WW1-2 multi-polarity, to Cold War bi-polarity, to post Cold War financial globalization, to final cycle uni-polarity.
That trend of consolidating polarity to "true North" to uni-polarity cannot be reversed, and only took about 100 years to crystallize. EVERY global war cycle, including the Cold War resolve into a UN presentation. The final cycle will be no different, except it will finally be full world government.
It is so simple, cyclic and predictable one can see it even without prophecy. Shoot, it already cycled three times already! Seeing the fourth cycle is logical, just intuition on an irreversible global trend of only 100 years of development.
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Scared of Armageddon?
by naja inin the light of the following promises made by jehovah, how can there be an armageddon?.
genesis 8:21: ... so jehovah said in his heart: never again will i cursethe groundon mans account, for the inclination of the heart of man is bad from his youth up;and never again will i strike down every living thing as i have done.. genesis 9:15, 16: and i will certainly remember my covenant that i made between me and you and every living creature of every kind;and never again will the waters become a flood to destroy all flesh.and the rainbow will occur in the cloud, and i will certainly see it and remember the everlasting covenant between god and every living creature of every kindon the earth.. does it make sense to say "i will never kill you by a flood, next time i will use fire?
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Well we have to understand the word "Armageddon" is a global condition, not "the end" which has been associated with that term. "Har" (mountain), "Magedon" (military camp) is merely a global military establishment in the NATO "charter" of intended military monopoly that will in time depose Russia and China to assimilate their systems into the global master weapons system.
But in such a monopoly of course we also have a unique "world peace" development. This is why NO "wars and reports of wars" is the Matthew 24:6 inversion of what 1Thess5:1-3 "peace and security" is really meaning: global peace by human world government definition is a unique signal period.
Now since we went from a multi-polar world before and into WW1 and WW2 to define a bi-polar world in the Cold War between the US and USSR systems, the trend towards uni-polarity requiring a final cycle is actually intuitive and predictable—it has been moving in that direction over three massive global war cycles, no way can that trajectory to uni-polarity simply be reversed by humans. If it took two world wars to establish a reliable bi-polarity, it seems likely a final cycle will depose the Russian/Chinese system even more so than the Cold War victory going to the US "new world order" advocates financially. (George Bush Sr., Address Before a Joint Session of Congress; 9/11/1990)
This means the post Cold War financial globalization that includes Russia, China and India socialist systems converting to capitalist, contributing billions in global capital dollars and peoples for late-capitalist investment, will simply continue the trajectory that always follows the wealth. The final cycle just fully assimilates the nation-state complex more topical military and governmental systems, but their finances are all in US elite control progressively since 1990. 1990 marked the greatest boost to globalization in all human history as Russia, China and India all joined fully into the financial markets. That is not an insignificant globalization in itself.
It appears the human system is the one to fear the most, for it will become the most dangerous once "world peace" means global weapons become available for other uses once nations have no more sovereignty to protect or expand in traditional multi-polar or bi-polar wars. Reaching that state takes a number of final years over this final cycle requirement.
In reality it seems God and Christ would be arriving not to destroy, but to save as many people as possible from the more dangerous human system (Matt24:21-22) which will be in uni-polarity, king "north" polarity, at that time. Divine power is not interested in "destroying billions", in reality it is global elite systems that have that agenda, which will give it more certainty of attempted deployment. The truth is the global system cannot handle many more people once the 10 billion mark is approached, one way or another that trajectory to eventual over population will be curtailed even if the earth itself had to handle the anti-viral task. God has no population limitations.
This is why they project the blame and fear upon God, but the real culprit remains undetected. God is not the one to be in dread over. Apostate Bethel supports this kind of slander as well, they have people focused on the wrong play.