That's one of the topics I just don't get...how so many people could put such trust in an organization with such a bizarre history. How, when they see and/or hear of the insanity, they still cling to it as "the truth"
HeyThere
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Two things that have really made me think.
by thedog1 injust got to say that two things i have found out on this forum have really made me think over the last year.
one is how the gb say that they were appointed in 1919 and how they always say that it was a small group of anointed ones, and they always stress that it was a collective group who did this.
but from this forum i have found out that really it was all judge rutherford's doing, that he was the sole kingpin at that time until his death in 1942, so no 'collective' slave.
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Jehovanomics RULE #3: Money Laundering Through Kingdom Hall Build-Out and Maintenance.
by Jehovanomics init's big business laundering money through construction and improvements of a kingdom hall.
it's steady cash flow laundering money to maintain a kingdom hall.
donated labor from members is icing on the cake.
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Where does the money go? Who is getting the big payouts? There are many secrets here that would be great to uncover.
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Update: Compromise of sorts reached regarding my child
by HeyThere insorry this is a bit long...lots of crap has happened in the past few months.
i was told i had cancer, then didn't have it, then did.
then found out my best friend had pretty much the same cancer, it spread, she died this month.
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Good god navy town that is true, and so appalling, disturbing, and anti-happifying is it not? It is just so callous. He has been supportive overall. He understood and had no problem with me going out of state for several weeks to be with her. He didn't complain at all. And he has been good, and compromised with our daughter. He just doesn't see how erroneous his thought process is.
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Update: Compromise of sorts reached regarding my child
by HeyThere insorry this is a bit long...lots of crap has happened in the past few months.
i was told i had cancer, then didn't have it, then did.
then found out my best friend had pretty much the same cancer, it spread, she died this month.
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Blondie...I completely agree with your post. I think it all boils down to love. I am going to approach him with that when my mind is right. I am fighting depression right now, just was told I have major depression disorder or some crap like that. Well, duh. What do you expect when you lifelong bestfriend/sister dies within weeks.
But I do need to fight this before adding more possible stress to the mix.
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Update: Compromise of sorts reached regarding my child
by HeyThere insorry this is a bit long...lots of crap has happened in the past few months.
i was told i had cancer, then didn't have it, then did.
then found out my best friend had pretty much the same cancer, it spread, she died this month.
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Gregor, those are great things to say. Once I have the energy to say them to him. I just can't deal with it now, my child doesn't want me to tell him I know he said this and I want her to continue feeling comfortable talking to me. So for now, I hold it in. Well, except now as I am sharing it here which provides some therapeutic relief I suppose.
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Update: Compromise of sorts reached regarding my child
by HeyThere insorry this is a bit long...lots of crap has happened in the past few months.
i was told i had cancer, then didn't have it, then did.
then found out my best friend had pretty much the same cancer, it spread, she died this month.
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Alphaman...I was surprised how easily he compromised about my daughter. I am happy for that. But his mind is boggled with this stuff. He knows how much that girl meant to me, my kids, even him and others. She has been around for decades. Both of us having cancer at the same time, and a similiar cancer at that, not a likely occurrence at our age (30's) and mine was found early. I still have another surgery to undergo but I am ok and declared cancer free. Hers went crazy. I stayed at the hospital with her until she passed away. I held her, cried with her, laughed with her, reminiscent of our dreams and the plans we had for the future. She was like my sister. We were so close that it was only me and her mother who spoke with doctors, slept in the room with her at night, etc. I am gutted. So him saying that just kills me.
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JW attitudes to women
by Frazzled UBM ini would be very interested to hear from you ladies on this one.
i know that the society keeps women in subjugation through the headship cr@p but didn't ahve any sense about hoew prehistoric the attitudes are until the other day when we were driving out of the supermarket car park and my wife spotted a woman dressed in tight shorts (it has been very hot here) and she commented 'they say that women who dress like that dserve to be raped'.
i did a wtf and overreacted 'how can you blame the victim like that - such attitudes give men a lciense to commit rape and make women feel they are to balme if they get raped which in turn means that rape doesn't get reported and it gopes on with impunity.
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I was appalled when I first picked up on the whole women = subjective, mindless, submissive sheep thing. I have worked hard in the corporate world to be treated as an equal, and here I go during a "good ol boy" crisis at work and hear the ignorance spewed from the pulpit. "Brothers, you may now be seated." So was I supposed to stay standing? No? Then why did he only say brothers could be seated? My husband would shake his head and later say it wasn't meant like that. Mmmmm kaaaaaay.
Then the sisters I studied with, even if my husband wasn't home they would cover their heads. So weird. In field service, there were times my husband was the only male. I realized they expected him to decide the next territory or plans to work it. I didn't care. I wonder what they thought of my telling my husband how I thought it would be best to work it. They never said anything but stood quietly waiting. So weird.
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SAY WHAAAAT? YOU CRAZY DUDE!
by sparrowdown inseriously, endured a torturous conversation with an active jdub yesterday.
and he was frothing at the mouth about how "muslims are doing the right thing with .
executing the....." he then went on to list everyone from drugdealers to thieves to fornicators.. he said "countries where this sort of thing is happening have got it right!
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When I was with my friend at the hospital, some of my witness family came to visit. As soon as they started with the "wicked system of things" talk I pulled them out. My friend was so not caring to hear that mess, coupled with "Hopefully Jehovah will keep her in his memory" crap. Having the resurrection tracts on standby. Some witnesses just don't realize how inappropriate and crazy their behavior is.
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Inside the Heaven's Gate Suicide Cult
by frankiespeakin inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbtltha0wow.
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I only watched a few minutes of it...but will watch it all later. Just so sad how religion can be used to hurt people and cause such devastating actions to occur.
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Not on JW.org: SIX Texas victims acuse Jehovah's Witness Elder & Circuit Overseer of sexual abuse, and bring lawsuit against Watchtower for cover-up.
by Balaamsass2 insexual exploitation and abuse of six young children leads to lawsuit in dallas county.
dallas, oct. 23, 2014 /news.gnom.es/ six young adults, from north texas, all sexually abused as children, filed suit today in dallas, texas state court against three north texas jehovahs witnesses congregations (dallas, plano, and greenville), the watchtower bible and tract society of new york, and an elder.. sexually abused when they were ages 4 through 14, the plaintiffs were children of members of the dallas, plano, and greenville jehovahs witnesses congregations.
the suit states that they were repeatedly sexually abused and molested by an elder and an unknown regional circuit overseer, and that they and their families were threatened with discipline and harm if they disclosed the abuse to anyone.
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