Posts by ShempLives

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My Elderette is attempting to change the subject again

by Faithful Witness in

we were in the middle of discussing their use of god's personal name, and miss k was not able to find one place in the bible, where jesus actually said the name out loud (that wasn't a quote from the ot).

we had started out by talking about jesus being "the way, the truth and the life.

" then she stated that one of the purposes of jesus' coming to earth, was "to make god's name known.

ShempLives

FW, Maybe you could ask Elderette how she feels about male headship? She must have seen some inept elders, and knows she could do better than some of the men in the congregation. Not all men are cut out for leadership or public speaking.

Ask her how she feels about being subordinate to a baptized brother who's less experienced--maybe just out of his teens. Or ask her if she minds covering her head if she has to lead a study or Field service group.

Just a thought. Looking forward to the next installment.

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JW Child Molester in NewMexico

by clarity in

for more news about this - google mike kim - you tube.

"not in my town".

http://www.koat.com/news/new-mexico/albuquerque/man-accused-of-sexually-assaulting-daughter-raping-mother/21482170.

ShempLives

"I agree that a sex offender should be convicted if guilty and known publicly, but there has to be balance. "

I don't think what Mike & Kim are proposing is legal. Child sexual abuse is a serious charge, not the sort of thing you should put on a postcard and distribute. Besides, it's the kids in the KH that are at risk of being abused by JWs, not the householder's kids. M&K are being alarmist and it's kind of irresponsible, imo.

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My Book of Bible Story Memes

by Beth Shan in

i really enjoy making memes from the my book of bible stories..

ShempLives

This is too funny! Those pictures are priceless!!

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AnonDude2 Ethan Hatcher invites you to his BBQ

by Watchtower-Free in

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many have heard of him from his youtube channel and his recorded judicial meeting for apostacy .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lko0vmqfyau.

saturday + sunday, august 2-3rd 2014. .

ShempLives

Could you Ask him to fix the audio for this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0np9xYjccOU

I enjoy his rants. thx. :D

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Embarrassed by Aggressive Apostates

by ShempLives in

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xjw protests & videos.

.. i am disturbed by some of the more aggressive apostates posting videos on youtube,like "a jw memorial to remember" where a drunk man goes to a memorial and downs the whole glass of wine as a sort of protest.

this video and others like it received positive comments from aawa members.

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Band on the Run: "Apostate walks into Bethel" was disturbing. The filmakers see nothing wrong with making penis jokes when they're representing an advocacy group for abuse victims. The Happy Dance video had a crude dance move performed by an adult and child, which is okay for family and friends, I felt it was wrong for an abuse advocacy group. They're strangely tone deaf.
I don't know if a peaceful sit in is possible with this attitude?

lisaBObeesa: "if anyone thinks that getting all exjws to be sweet and kind all the time is going to bring the WT down" ExJws being aggressive in public turns people away. Watching people vent their anger like this is painful. Of course XJWs aren't going to be robots, but do they have to be bullies?

Simonyou have a talent for summing it all up beautifully in one post

Thanks for your perspectives, Vdiot, Phizzy, Dazednotconfused,

ApostateThunder, NewYork44M

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Embarrassed by Aggressive Apostates

by ShempLives in

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xjw protests & videos.

.. i am disturbed by some of the more aggressive apostates posting videos on youtube,like "a jw memorial to remember" where a drunk man goes to a memorial and downs the whole glass of wine as a sort of protest.

this video and others like it received positive comments from aawa members.

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snare& racket: "The turmoil and damage that causes someone to drink and cause disorder in this cult after leaving, is due to inner pain....they are so desperate to have their side heard in that KH, they did that."

Well said, and I feel their pain & anger fueling their behavior. it's ugly/ disturbing to think that the same destructive tendencies were implanted by the WT. JWs are so programmed when they see an XJW acting out, they will think "See what happens when you leave the truth!" JWs and the public don't understand that years of WT abuses cause people to lash out.

WT Free and 'Hades" - Love the pictures. They always make me smile.

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Embarrassed by Aggressive Apostates

by ShempLives in

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xjw protests & videos.

.. i am disturbed by some of the more aggressive apostates posting videos on youtube,like "a jw memorial to remember" where a drunk man goes to a memorial and downs the whole glass of wine as a sort of protest.

this video and others like it received positive comments from aawa members.

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Gregor: Ray Franz approach vs. Danny Haszard--that's a great comparison, I totally agree the Franz approach is more effective while Danny Haszard's style gets a lot of negative attention.

Apognophos: The DH pepper spraying case scares me too. He could have killed those elderly JWs, Pepper spray could cause asthma attack or worse. Very serious for a senior citizen w/ health issues. I worry some people may cause a riot at an assembly or other public venue. If that happens and some hapless JW or bystander gets hurt, or made a martyr, that will handicapp the apostate movement and the JWs will feel vindicated and get a lot of sympathy from the public. I don't have any inside info on AAWA's plans, just a sick feeling that a tragic accident is likely. I hope it doesn't take a martyr to make the more aggresive XJWs reconsider their tactics.

Fernando and finklestein: Good insights. I have to remember YT is just one community. I am glad you have this forum for people to vent, & ask questions.

AProclaimer: Acting crazy only makes things worse, absolutely correct. especially those who act out next to JWs who are programmed to look and act "nice". I hate the phony niceness and fake smiles of the JWs . Being dramatic/crazy can be of interest to some morbid spectators but in the long run it scares away anyone who might be slowly waking up.

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Embarrassed by Aggressive Apostates

by ShempLives in

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xjw protests & videos.

.. i am disturbed by some of the more aggressive apostates posting videos on youtube,like "a jw memorial to remember" where a drunk man goes to a memorial and downs the whole glass of wine as a sort of protest.

this video and others like it received positive comments from aawa members.

ShempLives

You've given me a lot to think about.

As Sitting Straight said, I'm coming off as harsh and judgmental pointing fingers. That is probably poor form for a first posting, to criticize a minority of the XJW community. Ugh. My bad.

But in all honesty I am appalled by some of their actions and the sense of escalation and the need to "top" each other. I have some serious misgivings about AAWA. They're putting themselves out there as spokes persons / publicists for the XJWs. I was all for giving them a chance but I think the leaders are whipping up a frenzy leading to the summer assembly. The ranting videos, childish stunts and the secrect, shadowy leadership all give me a sense that "something is not right. " I had the same feeling of dread like many had upon hearing the WT was making a new facility at WalKill--my first thought was another Jonestown or Waco, and it's a possibility. I would hate for the rabid apostates to instigate a Stonewall-type riot.

I'm coming to the realization that there's not much anyone can do except let the Nutters run the asylum.

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Embarrassed by Aggressive Apostates

by ShempLives in

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xjw protests & videos.

.. i am disturbed by some of the more aggressive apostates posting videos on youtube,like "a jw memorial to remember" where a drunk man goes to a memorial and downs the whole glass of wine as a sort of protest.

this video and others like it received positive comments from aawa members.

ShempLives

Thank you Fernando, Lisa Rose, Listner, Londo, Ignorance is Bliss & girl next door and all who responded. I'm relieved some of you share my sentiments. I was starting to get the sense of an angry mob emerging from the online XJW community.

I'm glad this forum is here. You have done amazing research & writing and I do appreciate the hard work that goes into maintaining JWN. <3

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Embarrassed by Aggressive Apostates

by ShempLives in

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xjw protests & videos.

.. i am disturbed by some of the more aggressive apostates posting videos on youtube,like "a jw memorial to remember" where a drunk man goes to a memorial and downs the whole glass of wine as a sort of protest.

this video and others like it received positive comments from aawa members.

ShempLives

Oubliette: Yes, that "somebody" is the WTBTS leadership.

By "somebody will go too far," I mean the rabid apostates will go too far with these stunts and a JW or bystander is going to get physically hurt or land in jail. The WT has hurt lots of people and I get the anger. you can make your argument without acting like a boor. I'm appalled that so many "famous" apostates are encouraging this. they're only going to start fights and make the JWs look like victims.

I was making a little joke about the "WT having a "Bite mark". Ha ha. :)

That's a very nice picture of a duck! :D