Posts by thedepressedsoul

20

Mass Mailer to Congregations & Branches - Those who can't disassociate

by thedepressedsoul in

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/491270004/mass-disassociation-pact?size=10&page=15.

the topic above got me thinking.

everyone here can't send a disassociation letter due to family or other reasons.

thedepressedsoul

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/491270004/mass-disassociation-pact?size=10&page=15

The topic above got me thinking. Everyone here can't send a disassociation letter due to family or other reasons.

What if we had a pre-written letter that all of us send to the branches and Kingdom Halls with in a 50 mile radius of where we live. The pre-written letter will state everything we feel is wrong. Teachings, treatment, child abuse, scandals etc...

It would be a anonymous letter signed by the Ex-JW community. Think of how many halls and branches we'd reach by each one of us only covering a 50 mile radius! Think of all the elders that would read it, those at the branch office etc... Not only would our voices be heard, but we may even wake a few up in the process. If we have access to JW's address we would also send this letter to them. It could be a world wide event! We choose a date just like suggested in the other post. Boom, all the letters hit within 2-3 days of each other. A few bucks in stamps, some printed paper and envelope and we reach more people than we would ever reach.

Any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated!

27

Major announcement, news, and video this upcoming Sunday in all kingdomhalls worldwide???

by EndofMysteries in

got a call from a relative that i should go to the meeting this sunday because something major to be announced.

(they were told it has to do with branches closing down, missionaries being sent home, etc).

i said it's probably money.

thedepressedsoul

lol it's going to just be the week day meeting change and they'll probably spin the shut down as the "final push" and create tons of excitement around it while they are trying to plug their financial titanic behind the scenes.

All it's going to do is make my life more complicated as elders start to push people to do more during the "final push".

15

Whatever happened to Applewhite's "report"?

by OrphanCrow in

do you remember the wt lawyer trying to get justice mcclelland to accept a new and improved report from the wt "expert", monica applewhite?.

the wt lawyer even managed to squeeze more time from the commission for applewhite to prepare her report.

funny thing is, applewhite never submitted that report.. i guess she has been too busy with catholic business...no time for the wt dudes.

thedepressedsoul

Actually, Heaven, I think that it was the WT lawyer who convinced the Commission to let her re-submit more information. Justice McClelland was not convinced that Applewhite had anything more to offer but the WT lizard wanted to add more "expert" opinion. McClelland gave them two weeks to submit another report and Applewhite didn't make the deadline.

I think this is why we never saw anything else. They ended up having nothing else that would look better besides their normal claims and statistics with zero reference on it. They realized they couldn't pull stuff out of the air and have people believe it like they do with their publications and the R/F.

37

Theocratic Ministry School . . . is still there AND longer?

by warehouse in

so i made a timeline based on the leaked letter, it is as follows:.

edit: updated chart with color, because the html version was crap.

so i know i might be crazy, but is the theocratic school still there, just called apply yourself to field ministry?

thedepressedsoul

I think the meeting has gotten longer too! I think it's supposed to be 1hour 30min now and it seems like it's been extended by 10-15 minutes on an already long night. I expect attendance to drop even more

When I saw the announcement I was hoping it was going to be shorter. This just rained on my parade... FML

37

Theocratic Ministry School . . . is still there AND longer?

by warehouse in

so i made a timeline based on the leaked letter, it is as follows:.

edit: updated chart with color, because the html version was crap.

so i know i might be crazy, but is the theocratic school still there, just called apply yourself to field ministry?

thedepressedsoul

This was put together as smoke and mirrors to keep the rank and file excited and busy. Nevermind the child abuse, financial issues and layoffs. Look, look! It's a new weekday meeting! Get excited and talk about this instead.

37

It must be a concern of all the information that is now been leaked

by joe134cd in

i have put up previous posts about this in the past, but i just thought that it was worth mentioning again.

it has to be of concern to them with how quickly information is getting leaked.

hell it even surprises at just how slowly information spreads by offical means.

thedepressedsoul

Guys, it's definitely happening. They are not going to pull it.

I know people in the video that they will be showing after the meeting and have also talked to someone that has had the actual new study "KM" digitally.

This is not a set up or anything of that nature. It's all very real and will be happening.

22

are there really 8 million jw's?

by wannaexit in

jw
friends

last circuit assembly there was 700+ present and 1 baptized.. recently there was a foreign language assemble of over 500 and 1 baptized.. in the last 5-10 years i haven't been to one assembly where there has been more than a handful baptized.

at the memorial all i see are the same old faces that have been coming since the flood.. the hall complex i attend has 6 congregation and several groups-there is negative growth.

when you factor in the demographically aging folk and the many who have already passed away, i don't know where they get the 8 million.. i know that most of the growth is from the developing countries, but still i think they are fudging their numbers.

thedepressedsoul

I would think the number of those who, according to the washtowel theology, would stand a passing chance of making it into the new Dark Ages at closer to 2 million. Maybe even as low as 800,000.

I agree. Their core, diehard members are probably under a million. 90% of my hall shows up now and then, goes out in service for social reasons. Anymore, most are in for the social reason. You took away service, I bet most would love that change.

Heck, you took away Thursday meetings, most would gasp in relief. You look around a Thursday meeting and you see a lot of tired, worn down people that look like they'd rather be a 100 other places.

I have never heard someone complain wishing they brought back the book study or lowered the pioneer hours. If anything, it's the exact opposite.

37

It must be a concern of all the information that is now been leaked

by joe134cd in

i have put up previous posts about this in the past, but i just thought that it was worth mentioning again.

it has to be of concern to them with how quickly information is getting leaked.

hell it even surprises at just how slowly information spreads by offical means.

thedepressedsoul

I don't think many see the BOE letters before they go out. That would indicate that someone high up on the food chain is an apostate leaking the information. If there is one, there is most likely others. Maybe even trapped because they have nothing if they left.

Maybe this will spur more to leak information.

From what I hear, the child abuse is quietly being whispered around Bethel. A lot more than at a congregation level.

22

are there really 8 million jw's?

by wannaexit in

jw
friends

last circuit assembly there was 700+ present and 1 baptized.. recently there was a foreign language assemble of over 500 and 1 baptized.. in the last 5-10 years i haven't been to one assembly where there has been more than a handful baptized.

at the memorial all i see are the same old faces that have been coming since the flood.. the hall complex i attend has 6 congregation and several groups-there is negative growth.

when you factor in the demographically aging folk and the many who have already passed away, i don't know where they get the 8 million.. i know that most of the growth is from the developing countries, but still i think they are fudging their numbers.

thedepressedsoul

i fail to see the significance of the numbers that make up jehovahs one true religion.

JW's love to flash numbers. Watch one of their broadcasts and see how many times they throw numbers at you to wow you.

When the numbers don't look good, "Only 8 survived the flood, Jah isn't a god of numbers!" Makes my head want to explode.

Biggest cherry picking organization I've ever seen. Use the old testament whenever possibly to justify harsh rules and then throw Jesus in there every now and then to promote love.

22

are there really 8 million jw's?

by wannaexit in

jw
friends

last circuit assembly there was 700+ present and 1 baptized.. recently there was a foreign language assemble of over 500 and 1 baptized.. in the last 5-10 years i haven't been to one assembly where there has been more than a handful baptized.

at the memorial all i see are the same old faces that have been coming since the flood.. the hall complex i attend has 6 congregation and several groups-there is negative growth.

when you factor in the demographically aging folk and the many who have already passed away, i don't know where they get the 8 million.. i know that most of the growth is from the developing countries, but still i think they are fudging their numbers.

thedepressedsoul

I have honestly been wondering the last 2+ years how they are still claiming there is "huge growth". I think the numbers are actually flat, if not on a steady decline. Everything I see shows the opposite.

I remember as a kid clapping forever as the individuals getting baptized walked out the door. There were a lot. Now, maybe a handful at best get up.

Old people dying alone has to be hurting the numbers. Our hall has had negative growth with you just figure in the deaths that have happened! Factor in those that left, are DF, don't turn in time and you have a way lower number each year.

It is boggling my mind how they are claiming huge growth.