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  Please stop deriding the Governing Body.

  by Esse quam videri in

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  please stop it !!!.

  we love them.

  we all love them.

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  umbertoecho

  Esse quam videri
  Sure. I'll stop being disgusted with them when they man up about their FDS denial as heard from G Jacksons own lying mouth at the Australian Royal Commission. Have a good look at this man's lying, lack of sincerity, transparency etc...

  The way he wriggled out of an honest and direct answer to the FDS and gods mouth piece on earth. Look it up on your WT CD be it 2011 or 2012, 8,000 hits on the subject that they are the FDS, over 2,000 on the GB being that FDS and a direct channel for Jehovah. And, that's just using their Watchtower study magazines and the one they promote to the public. They are the ones slamming God's name.

  Are you not supposed to love God and Christ rather than men? You have become caught up in creature worship
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  Unwitnessing Calmly To JW Cart People Yesterday

  by Watchtower-Free in

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  2. experiences

  talked for about 45 minutes with 2 cart people .

  daniel wiebe (his vid) emily, and myself (csf) .

  caught them lying 4x on very important topics.

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  Nice approach, you were well spoken and gained some good information, while imparting some clues for them to follow, plus the use of similar religions beliefs was non confronting and smart.
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  Right everyone watch this video its insane!

  by username in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i'm just watching this video.

  now bare in mind this guy has never been a jehovah's witness so he has no investment in this cult.. https://youtu.be/_ry-onhbkya.

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  Petraglyph: Thank you go it and saved it. I agree that this man made some honest mistakes, on the whole I think he is valid and I for one always like to follow the money with WT inc. I loved it when I found elders with huge shares in .....get this.....Elders and West Farmers to name a few. They deal in farms, equipment, fertilizers etc. I found this by accident and just couldn't help it. I had to read all of it. There are so many witnesses, particularly elders that are given little tips, advice etc as to where to invest. It's quite the thing. Of course, officially they are not to store up "treasures" here on earth as they are to await heavenly ones or something like that....
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  Right everyone watch this video its insane!

  by username in

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  2. scandals

  i'm just watching this video.

  now bare in mind this guy has never been a jehovah's witness so he has no investment in this cult.. https://youtu.be/_ry-onhbkya.

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  GMOs from Forbes.

  DJS. Go ahead and tell me how not dangerous GM food are. Please don't spout off at the mouth before you can supply good counter-evidence because I can give you some that should shut your arrogant mouth up. Got shares in them?

  Look up GM crops India, there, that's a little homework for you. Go ahead. Now if you can process anything you read. Have a nice little read on the insertion of genomes from pigs that are also put into certain GM produce....

  You really need to read some decent literature, then write it out with your little graphite pen on your slate, then do some memorising of facts. I suspect you know jack shit about this topic.
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  Right everyone watch this video its insane!

  by username in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i'm just watching this video.

  now bare in mind this guy has never been a jehovah's witness so he has no investment in this cult.. https://youtu.be/_ry-onhbkya.

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  Lockheed the creators of war equipment, training etc and all based in Australia. Never knew that! Very flash looking company, and not some dithery type of business, for their business is about the benefits of war.
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  Right everyone watch this video its insane!

  by username in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i'm just watching this video.

  now bare in mind this guy has never been a jehovah's witness so he has no investment in this cult.. https://youtu.be/_ry-onhbkya.

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  umbertoecho

  I tried the link but found a site that was not what I expected. I typed it correctly, this was a very long link. Is there any other way to find this information without such a long hyper- text transfer protocol?
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  Is the WT SLOW-ly Changing the importance of the Door to Door preaching work to something more profitable?

  by John Aquila in

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  2. beliefs

  its been a couple of weeks since a new c.o.

  was appointed to the circuit and im starting to hear tidbits of his talks..

  one brother told me that in one of his talks he asked the question; .

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  Last Friday I was called by an elders wife. They are devoted to the "truth". And although I am not baptised but raised in this religion, they overlook that fact when it come to trusting me to take care of the dog and cat. They won't ask any other JW. They know I will be loving to the animals. They also think I'm crazy in a nice way.

  That was the preamble to the point about "cart witnessing". Sitting there with the dog on my lap and hearing about this elders wife on the topic of cart witnessing she said..." It's really easy. I we did was sit there and catch up on our "gossip" have a coffee and watch people go by. It was a good break from other more stressful things".

  I asked her if she had some decent conversations with the locals and she said no, they were busy getting about their day. "Anyway, the message is going to change soon. It will be a different message and afterwards, the preaching will stop. You know, like in Noah's day".

  I asked her what exactly she meant. She said that Armageddon was around the corner and like in Noah's day he climbed into the Ark and Jehovah sealed the door.

  "But, what about those who will never hear of this preaching work due to bans?" She said that it was possible the news would reach them some other way......People over here are going to where the need is greater.........But Portugal? I don't know what the situation is like over there.
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  How do we know the WTS monitors this site? Can anyone tell me for sure?

  by LevelThePlayingField in

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  i keep hearing this in threads.....

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  Considering that at the last meeting I attended, which was a link up with Bethel in Sydney. They said no recordings, no photo's and....you may take notes if you wish but you cannot share them with anyone....I have no trouble believing that they would surf sites to monitor the thoughts expressed on sites like these and many others.

  I thought it incredibly paranoid when sitting there watching pseudo body guard type men walking up and down the aisle constantly during the talk. I mean Really! It's not like they have state secrets to hide. I don't recognize this religion anymore. They were always fairly insane but much friendlier than they are now.
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  Anthony Morris explains how God gives Decrees to man! New video edit.

  by Wasanelder Once in

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  i took the most recent video on "obey" and edited it down to its core.

  here tony explains that the decisions of the faithful slave are arrived at "collectively" but are not a "collection" of man made decisions.

  it would be comical if it weren't so sad.. tony video.

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  Yep, he's slurring his words. I wonder what's going on with his health.
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  Could the Independent Inquiry in England and Wales expose jw.org's child abuse failures? And how can we help?

  by defender of truth in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  with all the talk about the org's policies and failures regarding child sexual abuse being publically exposed in australia, i thought that it may be a good time to highlight this... i apologise if this has already been discussed, but on the 9th of july the independent inquiry into child sexual abuse in england and wales was opened.

  here is some information regarding it's aims.. "about the inquiry.

  the inquiry offers an unprecedented opportunity to examine the extent to which institutions and organisations in england and wales have taken seriously their responsibility to protect children.. the inquiry will investigate a wide range of institutions including:.

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  umbertoecho

  defender, I have already been in touch with them and they will respond soon I hope.