Oh, how loving and Christian of her. How can she expect any redemption in her future?. I understand and invite any need you may have to talk. So very, very sorry my love.
Juliette
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The Heartless JW
by babygirl30 insoooo...i have recently been diagnosed with an autoimmune disease, and am scared out of my mind.
in a weak moment, i called my parents and my mom answered.
i start crying as i tell her about my disease, and this woman says to me:.
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Suicide Prevention Counseling
by MrCellophane inin the 1980's when i was an elder, i don't remember the society providing any guidance to elders on suicide prevention counseling.
i realize much has changed since then.
can any current/recent elders update me on what the current position of the local elders would be if approached by someone in the congregation contemplating suicide and seeking help?.
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I can. An elders daughter is supposed to be bi polar...Lucky her, she has two ways of being....Not to digress..........In the late 1990s suddenly, embracingly, the society in Australia started to change their views on psychiatry. There was so much going against the society for it's prior stand againts such help, that here in this country, there had to be a change. Suddenly, from the Head Quarters and endorsed by the GB there were
" sudden changes" in attitudes toward those who would need psychiatric help. It took a few suicides to achieve this.....I know for a clear fact though, that as recent as last year, the unofficial response is still a secret "negative'. Interestingly, I found out that a lot of women worked in the counselling industry..This was highly disturbing to me. These people could scroll through records and whatever.....The official public view is that young ones and old ones are being put under pressure by Satan's system. Therefore you can medicate up to the eyeballs if you want...but, the atmosphere surrounding those who do such things is somewhat suspicious...This is from personal experiences with a 28 year old who only wanted to have her babies and fulfill a great need in her....
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US Royal Commission or Something Like it
by mrmagic inwhat would be the equivalent of a us version of the royal commission?
i'm not just asking about one specific governmental entity, but perhaps even a conglomerate of entities or series of events that would need to take place to cause a domino effect....a tipping point.
who do you think needs to be contacted that can turn around and contact a lot of others?looking for thoughts and ideas.
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defender of truth. Essentially it was the outrage of many who had suffered in religious organizations that caused such a public awareness. It takes a few with enough courage to state the facts
Julia Gillard accepted this need and announced her decision to have an inquest or Royal Commission. She may not have initiated the inquest in it's formative state, but she certainly stamped it "approved" at the end of the day. Certainly she was not that popular in many liberal circles, but she is labour in belief. I liked her most of the time, although at times she needed diction lessons in order not to switch people off to the actual message.
She was the one who gave it the go ahead.
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Theocratic War Strategy and Watchtower lawyer Vincent Toole...
by Marvin Shilmer inremember brother toole's testimony to the royal commission that he was unaware of watchtower theocratic war doctrine, and that he didn't know what it means?
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well wait until you read the letter i just posted on my blog: theocratic war strategy in action?
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Not good to lie to the Royal Commission as they are given two alternatives. Swear on the bible or make and oath...Once an oath is proven to be a perjury then there are consequences. Mr Angus Stewart wanted an extension but was not granted this..No doubt there will be "findings" This will reveal a lack of transparency and honesty. People from all over have written to this man......re the lies.
I would like to remind you that this religion has been banned before and it was due to it's sectarian views as opposed to a religious view. I confess that there was a patriotic aspect to this.....But what the hell? If you are benefiting from the policies of the government you have adopted, why should you shun them and accuse them when they make decisions that don't' fit with your neutral stance on " all matters" that don't fit in with your adopted point of view..........in this case a religious one.
It is insufficient to claim the "neutral stance". The witnesses are not neutral if you study their literature.
Nothing is passive if you really read the messages about how Satan is dominating this world.........Men are doing that, and other good men and women are working against injustice.
Jehovah's Witnesses have forfeited their precious "good standing" due to these most obvious lies.......... Their well publicized and bragged about, successes in law courts have been blatantly bragged about over the years. They have pounded their chests in displays of righteousness to the point of pure arrogance and vanity... Law courts are essentially a reflection of the political atmosphere in which ever country or state it operates in.
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Getting it out of my system, a VERY long introduction/outpouring..
by adimmedlight inwarning, novel ahead:.
after a few months of lurking on this site, i've decided to take the plunge...i don't really care so much about introducing myself, but somehow there is some relief in the thought of getting my little story out there, just getting it out of my system.
i am the oldest of 5 kids.
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Welcome to you. Try to enjoy this forum and speak to some who really know a lot. Pose questions if you suffer some doubts. People will not hurt you here and you will be answered. I feel very sad for you. I also feel that there is nothing wrong with "love", no one on this earth has any right to tell you how to love or whom you should love. Please don't cave in to the awful man made doctrines that have distorted any message that Christ left for us. If you prefer.......call him Buddha, Fred, Eric........whatever..Just don't forget that the old laws were done away with because of the excessive burdens added to the Jews of the day.
Try to find those who will speak to you and try not to despair. That is pathetic, of course you will despair. Just make sure you are safe and warm when you do it.....xxx
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Participate In The EX-JW Personality Test!
by C0ntr013r infirst of all; i must admit that i'm not a huge fan of putting people in boxes like this, it is not an exact science.
but i still think the data can be quite interesting and i intend to collect it and share it in a structured way with you guys.
so without future ado here are the details.. link to test: .
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Participate In The EX-JW Personality Test!
by C0ntr013r infirst of all; i must admit that i'm not a huge fan of putting people in boxes like this, it is not an exact science.
but i still think the data can be quite interesting and i intend to collect it and share it in a structured way with you guys.
so without future ado here are the details.. link to test: .
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Participate In The EX-JW Personality Test!
by C0ntr013r infirst of all; i must admit that i'm not a huge fan of putting people in boxes like this, it is not an exact science.
but i still think the data can be quite interesting and i intend to collect it and share it in a structured way with you guys.
so without future ado here are the details.. link to test: .
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After six years I still come up with the INTP test....Introvert(22%) iNtuitive(50%) Thinking(25%) Perceiving(22%)- You have slight preference of Introversion over Extraversion (22%)
- You have moderate preference of Intuition over Sensing (50%)
- You have moderate preference of Thinking over Feeling (25%)
- You have slight preference of Perceiving over Judging (22%)
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Revelation 8:8 Is a comet / asteroid heading here soon?
by FuzzyPaul ini have read a lot and watched some you-tube videos (some by marginally lunatic fringe christians - not necessarily invalidating) searching for asteroid september 2015 or comet september 2015.. there is some biblical evidence that, if one doesn't spiritualize / make literally invalid by symbolic exercise, that at the time of the end of the age there will be a uniquely severe, single great earthquake (isaiah 29:6, zecharia 4:7, haggia 2:6, revelation 6:12, revelation 16:18) and destructive objects described as hail, mountains falling from the sky, stars falling onto earth.
i note that ancients would not recognize the vastness of outer space and meteroids, asteroids, comets, planets being what we know them as.. there is also the exact symbol of "then the second angel blew his trumpet, and a great mountain of fire was thrown into the sea.
one-third of the water in the sea became blood, one-third of all things living in the sea died, and one-third of all the ships on the sea were destroyed.
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Revelation 8:8 Is a comet / asteroid heading here soon?
by FuzzyPaul ini have read a lot and watched some you-tube videos (some by marginally lunatic fringe christians - not necessarily invalidating) searching for asteroid september 2015 or comet september 2015.. there is some biblical evidence that, if one doesn't spiritualize / make literally invalid by symbolic exercise, that at the time of the end of the age there will be a uniquely severe, single great earthquake (isaiah 29:6, zecharia 4:7, haggia 2:6, revelation 6:12, revelation 16:18) and destructive objects described as hail, mountains falling from the sky, stars falling onto earth.
i note that ancients would not recognize the vastness of outer space and meteroids, asteroids, comets, planets being what we know them as.. there is also the exact symbol of "then the second angel blew his trumpet, and a great mountain of fire was thrown into the sea.
one-third of the water in the sea became blood, one-third of all things living in the sea died, and one-third of all the ships on the sea were destroyed.
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Got to go now or in a minute anyway and write a prophecy then think of a nice new religion, where everyone worships me me me me..
And I get to travel first class and say lies on a polite Royal Commission with a hand holding a book which looks like a bible but really is a hollowed out book with file in it like the guy in Shawshank Redemption.
Then I've got to set a website but the first thing on it has to be the "donate" button because donations prove faith although no will no what they are showing in but it won't matter because I'll make it look Christian enough and promise all sorts of things I can never fulfill..........Sorry, losing the plot with excitement ..